POLL: How do you generally view the LC?

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Terry

During my teen years in San Bernardino, CA I would say B-6. As an adult in Bellevue, wa I would say D-3. How as it I stayed as long as I did as an adult? Familiarity and family relations are several. Children raised in the local churches, to meet anywhere else is a foreign concept. Humanly speaking leaving one's comfort zone is a difficult decision. If you have social connections with brothers/sisters from another church denominational or non-denominational it is easier.

Yes, the comfort zone is . . . well . . . comfortable! Did you know any of the ones from the NW that moved to Scottsdale in around 1990?

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Yes, the comfort zone is . . . well . . . comfortable! Did you know any of the ones from the NW that moved to Scottsdale in around 1990?

If he's still in Scottsdale, you may be familiar with Chuck. During the time I was still meeting with Bellevue, he visited for his sister's wedding. I knew Chuck's mom fairly well from my home meeting group. Back then in the mid-90's there was still animus towards those who went to Scottsdale (and Moses Lake too).
But on Chuck's visit, I saw nothing but love for him.
No one else I knew in Scottsdale having moved to Bellevue from San Bernardino in 1993.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Terry

If he's still in Scottsdale, you may be familiar with Chuck. During the time I was still meeting with Bellevue, he visited for his sister's wedding. I knew Chuck's mom fairly well from my home meeting group. Back then in the mid-90's there was still animus towards those who went to Scottsdale (and Moses Lake too).
But on Chuck's visit, I saw nothing but love for him.
No one else I knew in Scottsdale having moved to Bellevue from San Bernardino in 1993.

I assume you mean Chuck B, right? Yes he's here and doing well - a wonderful and encouraging brother! He's actually one of three elders here, and one of the six speaking brothers (who rotate giving the Sunday message. His sharing is always fresh, insightful and encouraging.

Animus toward those who went to Scottsdale? I actually don't know that much about when the ones here (in Scottsdale) were still in the NW. Why were there hard feelings?

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I assume you mean Chuck B, right? Yes he's here and doing well - a wonderful and encouraging brother! He's actually one of three elders here, and one of the six speaking brothers (who rotate giving the Sunday message. His sharing is always fresh, insightful and encouraging.

Animus toward those who went to Scottsdale? I actually don't know that much about when the ones here (in Scottsdale) were still in the NW. Why were there hard feelings?

It would be one and the same.
I moved back to the area after ones from Seattle/Bellevue moved to Scottsdale. I was not well acquainted what happened in Seattle versus Anaheim. All I can tell you ones who went to Scottsdale as well as the ones meeting in Moses Lake were referred to as rebels. Didn't agree with it, but that's how it was.

[OBW]

D3

All the way back to the beginning (with Nee in China).

I will say that the scale is problematic. This "different Christ and difference gospel" theme tends to argue against even being Christian. But I would never say that. But unorthodox, definitely. And so many add-ons to Christ that it is hard to find the real person under the trappings.

But the thing I find most problematic is that their Christ is not really based on what can be seen in the gospels (in other words, first-hand Christ), but misunderstood writings of Paul. And Paul gets a lot of blame for misunderstanding by even much of evangelical Christianity. We don't really pay attention to what Christ said and did first, then read Paul with the understanding that he is talking about the Christ that can be seen in the gospels (even if those were not yet written). Instead, we read Paul, interpret it in a vacuum (using a lot of eisegeses — reading into), and then forcing that image onto Christ despite the direct record that often reads differently.

And the LC has been worse than the rest in that matter.

But you add the issues that are not covered in this brief questionnaire (abuse, sectarian, etc.) and they get rated as Christian but earning a failing grade as bearing the image of God.

[Sons to Glory!]

Yeah, the poll has it's shortcoming in that it only asks a couple things, and maybe the scale isn't the best . . . perhaps we should put together a longer, four quadrille questionnaire that can better reflect all the nuances of the varying experiences of folks on here. We could do that - who wants to start working on it?

[Ohio]

You should ask our views when we first contacted the LC, rather than 30-40 years later.

[Cal]

I agree with UntoHim. What is a "genuine move?"

Seems to be just leftover LR thinking and terminology.

The whole mindset is categorically wrongheaded.

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

perhaps we should put together a longer, four quadrille questionnaire that can better reflect all the nuances of the varying experiences of folks on here. We could do that - who wants to start working on it?

Again the premise of the thing is flawed. What is a "genuine move of God?" Give me an example of one. Give me an example of something that is not one.