Truth

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

https://youtu.be/cq-r9FFN5ew

Nell, this video I think relates to the condition of every man and looks at scripture, specifically 'pasha' or the breaking of trust. I love how this group breaks scriptural truth down best as they can using the literal translations of words and word studies. I see a discrepancy between Gods' word and what Lee believed and taught.

It is so easy to think oneself right and be guilty of pasha, or breaking trust with someone. Or many someones.

Wow! Great word study on this video! This video describes what so quickly changed my attitude towards Lee -- he violated the trust we placed in him. Then he attacked those who addressed this "pasha" -- the breaking of a trust relationship.

In this regard, no one has ever "rebelled" against Lee, rather it was he who rebelled against us, by violating the normal trust which is placed in a minister or teacher of the Bible.

[byHismercy]

Nell, can you cut and paste the portion up for discussion from your opening post? I could not navigate to it for some reasom...

[UntoHim]

Unfortunately, LSM makes it difficult to post a link that goes directly to a particular book or portion of a book.

What you need to do is to go to: https://www.ministrybooks.org/

Then go to "Books by Title A-Z"

Then navigate to the letter "C", and under C you will find the book: "Character of the Lord's Worker, The" - Click on this link to take you to the table of content for this book.
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[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wow! Great word study on this video! This video describes what so quickly changed my attitude towards Lee -- he violated the trust we placed in him. Then he attacked those who addressed this "pasha" -- the breaking of a trust relationship.

In this regard, no one has ever "rebelled" against Lee, rather it was he who rebelled against us, by violating the normal trust which is placed in a minister or teacher of the Bible.

Ohio, this was my experience also. Not with Lee or Anaheim against the midwest LCs, but just personally, our families' trust in the LC saints was deeply violated through their shunning of us. Personal relationships broken. Then the actual events were turned around and I was accused of breaking with them, etc. Which thought never entered my heart. But as Aron pointed out, Jesus paid their penalty, too. But I believe in our part....confession and repentance. So the guilty party would need to climb down off of their high horse of 'we are right' and acknowledge their pasha.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

Ohio, this was my experience also. Not with Lee or Anaheim against the midwest LCs, but just personally, our families' trust in the LC saints was deeply violated through their shunning of us. Personal relationships broken. Then the actual events were turned around and I was accused of breaking with them, etc. Which thought never entered my heart. But as Aron pointed out, Jesus paid their penalty, too. But I believe in our part....confession and repentance. So the guilty party would need to climb down off of their high horse of 'we are right' and acknowledge their pasha.

byHismercy, those who "shunned" you are also victims of sorts. Abuse begets abuse, just as love begets love.

When John taught (I Jn 2.27) that we have received an abiding anointing, which is true and not a lie, which teaches us all things, that we need no one else to teach us, it was in the context of love. Truth be told, "God is love" is proven by loving others.

Shunning, however, violates both the teaching anointing and the truth. Shunning weaponizes heresy to hold members in fear in order keep them in bondage. Here the LC church is no different from the local Amish or the Pharisees in Jesus' day. The leaders bear the most responsibility, but those who shun others must violate the love of God within their own hearts.

Jesus taught us to love our enemies. LC leaders may teach that ex-members are "enemies," but their rotten traditions should not supersede the word of God.