LordsRecovery.Org Exposing the Christian Cult of Witness Lee's Local Church

[Sons to Glory!]

Thanks for posting! As I read through it, I realized that this is not a display of love as conveyed in 1st Corinthians chapter 13. Love does not seek its own. Love is not puffed-up and doesn't think of itself in a way that exalts itself.

At the end of his life, Lee publicly confessed that love was the missing ingredient in The Recovery.

What does Jesus have to say? "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." (John 13:35)

What does Paul have to say? "If I do not have love, then I am nothing!" (1 Cor 13:2)

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

At the end of his life, Lee publicly confessed that love was the missing ingredient in The Recovery.

But when he said this, we all were convinced that it was all our fault there was no love. Never, until I left the program, did I realize that most of us came into the Recovery with lots of love, and then slowly it was gone.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Ohio

But when he said this, we all were convinced that it was all our fault there was no love.

Well good - you took some accountability!

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Well good - you took some accountability!

Yes, we are accountable for the lack of love. But the reason for the lack of love was that it was drained away from us through the pesha (see the thread on truth) of Lee. And that pesha came to include others who join with him to carry that draining out, and now take Lee's place as the ones who are breaking trust.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by OBW

Yes, we are accountable for the lack of love. But the reason for the lack of love was that it was drained away from us through the pesha (see the thread on truth) of Lee. And that pesha came to include others who join with him to carry that draining out, and now take Lee's place as the ones who are breaking trust.

And of course leadership does have that accountability too, and according to scripture a higher accountability to lead us correctly. I am certainly aware how easily us sheep are influenced, especially when we're younger and less mature in our walk with the Lord.

Back then I had nothing to compare the LC with, other than the Free Methodist gathering I was saved through when a youngster. As someone recently (maybe on this forum) pointed out, they easiest way to tell if a stick is crooked is to place a straight one alongside it . . .

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

Yes, we are accountable for the lack of love. But the reason for the lack of love was that it was drained away from us through the pesha (see the thread on truth) of Lee. And that pesha came to include others who join with him to carry that draining out, and now take Lee's place as the ones who are breaking trust.

I agree with this. Think about this destructive teaching by Lee that "natural love is honey, which spoils the offering." That alone killed brotherly love in many a brother and sister.

WL and Company taught us that the only "safe" love was our love for his ministry. Even our love for the Lord, based on His word, was risky. John Ingalls was condemned for following his own conscience. I was told that "coming back to the pure word of God" was a tactic of he enemy.

In part, Lee produced Laodicean arrogance and pride by demanding allegiance to him and his ministry, and to him and his ministry alone.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I agree with this. Think about this destructive teaching by Lee that "natural love is honey, which spoils the offering."

That in itself is not really true - pure honey doesn't go bad!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

That in itself is not really true - pure honey doesn't go bad!

God promised Israel a land "flowing with milk and honey," and then Lee taught us it represented "natural love" which supposedly was bad.

Somebody needs to do some fact-checking on Lee's teachings.

This one gets 4 Pinocchios.