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Old 09-30-2019, 02:29 PM   #1
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I said "I love my country" and I do. Do you think this can be taken too far?
I agree with you on both parts. I love my country. It is far from perfect, but hard to beat.

But can it be taken too far? I'm sure it can. When we start singing to the country as part of our worship of God, then something is surely gone wrong in our priorities in love. I think that within the context of worship, it is best to think of it like what Jesus said about love of money v love of God. It needs to be one or the other. And within worship, it needs to be love for God and no room for love of country.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:22 PM   #2
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I agree with you on both parts. I love my country. It is far from perfect, but hard to beat.

But can it be taken too far? I'm sure it can. When we start singing to the country as part of our worship of God, then something is surely gone wrong in our priorities in love. I think that within the context of worship, it is best to think of it like what Jesus said about love of money v love of God. It needs to be one or the other. And within worship, it needs to be love for God and no room for love of country.
Perhaps we should then be regularly burning our flag just to prove that we admit that our country is "far from perfect," that the white man is truly evil, and that we Americans are "really free." Now I get it!

And how dare those misguided evangelicals vote their freedoms! Should they even be allowed to vote? Not for them sinful candidates! They can only vote for these sanctimonious virtue-signalers, who prove themselves worthy. Yeah Beto!
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:25 PM   #3
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Perhaps we should then be regularly burning our flag just to prove that we admit that our country is "far from perfect," that the white man is truly evil, and that we Americans are "really free." Now I get it!

And how dare those misguided evangelicals vote their freedoms! Should they even be allowed to vote? Not for them sinful candidates! They can only vote for these sanctimonious virtue-signalers, who prove themselves worthy. Yeah Beto!
Silly talk. You are no doubt trying to do what Rush used to do (and maybe he still does): demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.
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Silly talk. You are no doubt trying to do what Rush used to do (and maybe he still does): demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.
Not silly talk. Just being honest with the absurdity I get hit with.
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Not silly talk. Just being honest with the absurdity I get hit with.
By then being absurd.
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By then being absurd.
So you then have exclusive rights to all absurdity?

That's not fair!

But I'll let you have this one, cause I'm such a great guy.
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Perhaps we should then be regularly burning our flag just to prove that we admit that our country is "far from perfect," that the white man is truly evil, and that we Americans are "really free." Now I get it!

And how dare those misguided evangelicals vote their freedoms! Should they even be allowed to vote? Not for them sinful candidates! They can only vote for these sanctimonious virtue-signalers, who prove themselves worthy. Yeah Beto!
Did you intentionally misunderstand my post? You are surely talking about something entirely different than what you quoted from me. Sort of like a politician who is asked a question on one thing, says "I'm glad you asked that," then spends the whole time talking about something else.

I was not talking about what kind of politics I do or don't like. It wouldn't matter if we all agreed on politics and they were as pure as the driven snow. What I said would still stand. In the context of our time of worship, other than praying for wisdom for our leaders, the country is not part of worship. Nor is its flag. My point is not to denigrate the flag, or the country, or any of its citizens, but to narrow the focus of worship to the kingdom of God. And revering secular days (4th of July, mother's day, etc.), singing about our country, and placing a flag in a prominent place within the worship environment are all things foreign to the kingdom of God and our worship of Him. For that period of time they should not be present.

This has absolutely nothing to do with burning the flag or protesting against any political ideology. Don't get so caught up in your zeal for things political that you can't read what is said before going off on your own private tirade.

The worst thing is that even in other posts where I was talking about politics, I never said anything even close to the things you mocked. On this topic, you are getting to be a bit of a jerk.
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Is on the political thread where we take the "kid gloves" off with each other and let our "real selves" come through (aka let the flesh have free rein)?
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Is on the political thread where we take the "kid gloves" off with each other and let our "real selves" come through (aka let the flesh have free rein)?
That's what I dislike politics, the zeal for party. Like the Texas pastor Robert Jeffress claiming civil war if Trump is impeached.

So we're going to kill each other over politics? ; the Trump supporters are going to kill liberals. That's how politics becomes.
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