Bill Mallon's Passing

[Nell]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Nell, do you remember what year this was?

I don't. I'm trying to find out. I'm pretty sure it was in the LA Convention Center. Is that your recollection JB482?

Here's an interesting list. https://www.lsm.org/pdfs/AudioVideoTapeCatalog.pdf

Nell

[JB482]

Originally Posted by Nell

I don't. I'm trying to find out. I'm pretty sure it was in the LA Convention Center. Is that your recollection JB482?

Here's an interesting list. https://www.lsm.org/pdfs/AudioVideoTapeCatalog.pdf

Nell

I've been trying to remember where and when it was,I looked through the pdf file and couldn't seem to find anything. I know it was in L.A. and am certain it was when Max was first coming to the forefront. It could have been in 1974 after the consolidations when the saints in Phoenix were told to go to San Diego or Anaheim. But I distinctly remember at that meeting Max pushing the wheelchair with bro Lee in it up the aisle to the front of the room to speak. I know this post is about Bill Mallon,I got to know Bill when I was in the church in Atlanta from 1976--1981 He was a very dear brother who cared deeply for the brothers and sisters.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by JB482

I've been trying to remember where and when it was,I looked through the pdf file and couldn't seem to find anything. I know it was in L.A. and am certain it was when Max was first coming to the forefront. It could have been in 1974 after the consolidations when the saints in Phoenix were told to go to San Diego or Anaheim. But I distinctly remember at that meeting Max pushing the wheelchair with bro Lee in it up the aisle to the front of the room to speak. I know this post is about Bill Mallon,I got to know Bill when I was in the church in Atlanta from 1976--1981 He was a very dear brother who cared deeply for the brothers and sisters.

Wasn't 1974 the first Life Study -- Gospel of John or Romans?

Nell's chart shows no messages in 1974 until the emd of the year.

I had heard that 4 brothers had to speak for WL because he was sick.

Btw, Bill's comment would then correspond with Don Hardy's observation at this time -- post-Daystar -- that the "anointing on WL was waning."

[JB482]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wasn't 1974 the first Life Study -- Gospel of John or Romans?

Nell's chart shows no messages in 1974 until the emd of the year.

I had heard that 4 brothers had to speak for WL because he was sick.

Btw, Bill's comment would then correspond with Don Hardy's observation at this time -- post-Daystar -- that the "anointing on WL was waning."

I believe WL was giving life study/ministry messages in 1974 because at that time period the church in Phoenix which I was in,was told to move to Anaheim or San Diego. It was up to the brothers and sisters to go to either one of those localities. I remember some bro's went to Anaheim one weekend to check it out and they said WL was having a ministry station there,but I don't think that big meeting hall in Anaheim was built yet. But about that conference Nell mentioned there was 4 brothers sharing instead of WL because of his eye surgery. Those brothers were Bill John Max and James. It was a long time ago and my memory is sketchy on some details.

[JB482]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wasn't 1974 the first Life Study -- Gospel of John or Romans?

Nell's chart shows no messages in 1974 until the emd of the year.

I had heard that 4 brothers had to speak for WL because he was sick.

Btw, Bill's comment would then correspond with Don Hardy's observation at this time -- post-Daystar -- that the "anointing on WL was waning."

For what it's worth,I found on that pdf file that Nell posted if you go to page 61 it shows that on Oct 1st 1974 the first life study messages were given on Genesis in Anaheim. But any reference to that conference when the 4 brothers spoke has probably been purged from their catalog file because of who they were.

[Nell]

Originally Posted by JB482

For what it's worth,I found on that pdf file that Nell posted if you go to page 61 it shows that on Oct 1st 1974 the first life study messages were given on Genesis in Anaheim. But any reference to that conference when the 4 brothers spoke has probably been purged from their catalog file because of who they were.

I think you’re right. If you look at 1997 past the date of Lee’s death, all who gave messages are not named beyond “Misc.”. How petty.

Nell

[JB482]

Your love and service to our Lord Jesus and your care for others will always be appreciated by many many brother's and sister's Bill Mallon.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Bill Mallon letter to Witness Lee

Later, at an Irving training, the office called on the carpet Brothers who represented the churches in the South. With video cameras trained on them, the office reprimanded them for not financially supporting Roger Fiero, berated them for not being one with the ministry, and pressured them for monthly pledges under a cloud of intimidation. In fact, the brothers were asked to write out checks totaling $6,000 right on the spot for his personal debts, and then to pay monthly amounts for his pledged support.

But before this time, not once was the opportunity for fellowship given to the brothers, for they were not aware of this matter. Afterwards, when Tom Cesar asked Ray Graver for an explanation for the seriousness of the meeting, Ray sharply answered, "we do what we are told!" This incident is contrary to your fellowship with the churches in that the full-timers should be approved by the churches. (Recently, it was discovered that Roger had received double, overlapping support for a few months after this training from both the office and the churches--what a bungled mess!)

Several months later, Roger was manifested to be the wrong brother, because of such weaknesses as fabricating stories and practicing opportunism. Once Tom Cesar and John Little called the office about problems he was causing; they were accused of an impure heart, being not supportive of the work on Davison campus.

Bill Mallon's letter showed what we're looking at here: a two-faced, duplicitous ministry. When Ray Graver told Tom Cesar, "We do what we are told!" this was in clear contradiction to Witness Lee telling the newspaper reporter in Seattle WA, "Here we are so free!" I appreciate Bill having the courage to speak truth to power, and to unmask the lies that enabled the ministry to control so many for so long.

Originally Posted by Bill Mallon

Later, Tom was told that the ministry never makes a mistake! Although the brothers in the South are not perfect, having many weaknesses, they nevertheless attempt to run backwards in order to be in one accord, but the office fails to give them the opportunity of fellowship to demonstrate their oneness. The principals from the office who are involved in these affairs are Phillip, Benson, and Ray (I hesitate to mention these dear ones by name, but please allow me this liberty for the sake of honesty). Much embarrassment, confusion, harassment, and demoralization resulted from their attitude and behavior. On June 11, 1986, during the time in your home when you fellowshipped with me, you Identified the problem in every region as having the deficiency of the intrinsic fellowship of the one accord, but in this case, it is not the region, but the office who violates this principle and practice. It takes both the giving and receiving sides to release the intrinsic flow of mutual fellowship.

Disclosure: I'm also duplicitous - only God is good. But I don't hold my ministry above scrutiny or critique. Witness Lee did, and people like Bill Mallon and John Ingalls and Jane Anderson were important to show us what happens to a ministry that covers itself by saying "my ministry never makes a mistake".

If you look at the terminology Mallon uses you may recognise that he's channelling ministry-speak: "in order to be in one accord" and "the intrinsic fellowship to be in one accord", and "the opportunity to fellowship to demonstrate their oneness". But as Ray Graver and Mel Porter and Paul Hon made clear, it's all pseudo-spiritual claptrap.