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Old 05-09-2019, 02:01 PM   #1
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When studying LC doctrine, what I see is a lot of equivocation. The Jesuits were well known for this technique as a method to avoid any type of persecution. And so, the only reason the teachings of the LC gives the illusion of multilayered complexity is because everything is so ambiguous so you can literally make things mean whatever you want them to mean depending on the situation or agenda.
In some cases the equivocation is blatant, obvious. Women are on one hand pillars of the recovery light, and then they can't teach, because "Paul said so". At one point the psalmist's imprecations are Christ defeating Satan, elsewhere the psalmist is entertaining "fallen human concepts" for similar sentiments. Early Nee was all about independent local churches (free from Western control, natch) and Later Nee "recovered" centralised control (under his aegis, natch). Lee said there was one spiritual giant per age, then when he died his lieutenants said the age of spiritual giants was over.

And none could question any of these obviously questionable assertions or they'd be expelled from the assembly. What sort of spirit is at work, here?
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And none could question any of these obviously questionable assertions or they'd be expelled from the assembly. What sort of spirit is at work, here?
Perhaps the same spirit that prevents people from leaving oppressive and abusive environments... the spirit of fear.
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...What sort of spirit is at work, here?
There are only two options.

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Old 05-10-2019, 07:01 AM   #5
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Yes. It clearly isn't the Lord, so...

On another thread, someone pointed out Galatians 5:20 and the various less-than-divine issues of the flesh, "idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions". Quite a list. But if you want to sum it up, it's not the Lord.

We saw a lot that was not the Lord, in the LC, but we kept our mouths shut because in the LC you keep your mouths shut. Which in itself is not of the Lord. He told us how to deal with sins (Matthew 18; cf 1 Tim 5:19). It was over-ridden by the cultural practices of the LC - "Don't let the Maximum Brother lose face."

Another example of equivocation was that Protestantism was our "goodly heritage" and often waved as a mark of our bona fides, and also was Mystery Harlot Babylon to be dissed at every turn. Sometimes we got both in the same message but everybody pretended not to notice. We got very good at compartmentalising knowledge in the LC. The trick is, never open both boxes at the same time, the "Babylon" and the "goodly heritage" ones. Always keep them isolated from each other.
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Yes. It clearly isn't the Lord, so...

On another thread, someone pointed out Galatians 5:20 and the various less-than-divine issues of the flesh, "idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions". Quite a list. But if you want to sum it up, it's not the Lord.
Don't forget "lasciviousness." Nee and Lee's boys had that.

That cinches it for me. From the very beginning : NOT OF THE LORD! But I've known that for decades.

I'm baffled I was so duped. Won't do that again. And haven't. Thank God!
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