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Old 09-09-2018, 07:03 AM   #1
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Evan ... why are you still living under the LAW, in the Old Covenant?

Division is not in the bread we eat, but in the heart. (Mark 7.18-23)
The use of an unleavened one loaf of bread in the Lords table is very much New Testament.

The presentation could be a stumbling block for some believers who find themselves having to choose between 9 different loaves of bread , some leavened and some flat. It's a good picture of denominationalism actually, with different loaves and types of loaves, however I have never seen communion bread displayed like that in any denomination I have attended, it is almost uniformly flat and broken from one piece.

But this is really not a serious matter, it is hardly worth mentioning.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:32 AM   #2
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The use of an unleavened one loaf of bread in the Lords table is very much New Testament.

The presentation could be a stumbling block for some believers who find themselves having to choose between 9 different loaves of bread , some leavened and some flat. It's a good picture of denominationalism actually, with different loaves and types of loaves, however I have never seen communion bread displayed like that in any denomination I have attended, it is almost uniformly flat and broken from one piece.

But this is really not a serious matter, it is hardly worth mentioning.
And where are these regulatory ordinances for unleavened, flat bread when the children of God remember the Lord?
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Old 09-09-2018, 02:35 PM   #3
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And where are these regulatory ordinances for unleavened, flat bread when the children of God remember the Lord?
It sounds like you've never heard of Passover.

It is all contained in the words "do this in remembrance of Me".

Christ used unleavened bread - please show me from Scripture where he said we could do otherwise.
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Sure I have heard of the Passover -- "Christ our Passover who was sacrificed for us." (I Cor 5.7)

Here is an historical fact little known inside the LC movement: For their Lord's Table bread they demand white flour, yet this type of flour was not invented until the late 19th century. Thus, for 1900 years, according to their regulations, all communion services throughout the world supposedly were illegitimate because they used whole wheat flour. Thank God we finally got it right! Shame on those cultures that broke bread with corn flour!

Getting back to the Apostles fellowship, I Cor 5.8 goes on to say, "Let us keep the feast, not with the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

Once again we notice that LC theology totally misses the mark. By focusing on the physical bread, they miss the spiritual reality. Didn't Jesus tell us that, "the Father seeks those who worship in spirit and reality." (John 4.23-24) Our New Covenant remembrance of the Lord has little to do with leaven in the bread, and everything to do with putting "malice and evil" out of our hearts. Thus, as happened all over the Midwest LC's, operatives from LSM introduced "malice and evil" into every Lord's Table gathering, dividing these churches asunder, yet sat there with their special "bread" all happy and proud singing W. Lee's songs.

Quite a real life picture of modern day Pharisees.
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Corn bread? Unlikely - Jews prohibit the consumption of corn, rice etc during Passover. Approved grains are wheat, rye and some others (I forget).

So you know about the Passover, you know that Christ is our unleavened bread.

So why use leavened bread when unleavened is available? Leavened bread is not a symbol of Christ, it's a symbol of a dinner roll or a bowl of soup. To be honest when I see the leavened bread on the table I'm thinking about pumpkin soup, not Christ.
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Corn bread? Unlikely - Jews prohibit the consumption of corn, rice etc during Passover. Approved grains are wheat, rye and some others (I forget).
Evan, you got things mixed up here. I am not talking about Jewish Seder celebrations, I am talking about the church, breaking bread to remember the Lord. Where is the New Testament command "Thou shalt get your bread right."

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So you know about the Passover, you know that Christ is our unleavened bread.

So why use leavened bread when unleavened is available? Leavened bread is not a symbol of Christ, it's a symbol of a dinner roll or a bowl of soup. To be honest when I see the leavened bread on the table I'm thinking about pumpkin soup, not Christ.
Is Christ our unleavened bread?

Have you not read the scriptures?

I Cor 5.7 says that we are unleavened. We are unleavened because Christ our Passover has died for us. I Cor 5.8 speaks of the "leaven of malice and evil." Paul here is referring to the hearts of those in Corinth. We must "purge out this old leaven of malice and evil" from our hearts so that we can "keep the feast with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

When you see the bread on the Table, you should be examining your own heart and thinking about the other members of the body of Christ you are with. We are the one loaf, many members but one body.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:28 PM   #7
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To be honest when I see the leavened bread on the table I'm thinking about pumpkin soup, not Christ.
A little Witness Lee + unleavened bread = Christ

Witness Lee + leavened bread = ?

No Witness Lee + unleavened bread = poor poor Christianity

No Witness Lee + leavened bread = outer darkness

Am I getting my math right? I think I missed #2.
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A little Witness Lee + unleavened bread = Christ

Witness Lee + leavened bread = ?

No Witness Lee + unleavened bread = poor poor Christianity

No Witness Lee + leavened bread = outer darkness

Am I getting my math right? I think I missed #2.
What a mocking and derisive attitude.

Can’t have a discussion about the type of bread to be used without launching into an attack on a brother?

Consider your post next time you break bread.

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Old 09-09-2018, 10:10 AM   #9
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The use of an unleavened one loaf of bread in the Lords table is very much New Testament.

The presentation could be a stumbling block for some believers who find themselves having to choose between 9 different loaves of bread , some leavened and some flat. It's a good picture of denominationalism actually, with different loaves and types of loaves, however I have never seen communion bread displayed like that in any denomination I have attended, it is almost uniformly flat and broken from one piece.

But this is really not a serious matter, it is hardly worth mentioning.
Don't feel too bad StG - As group of believers, from different denominations, we met last week and broke bread Brethren style. We used leavened bread and gluten free crackers because Jesse is celiac and a couple others are gluten intolerant.
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Don't feel too bad StG - As group of believers, from different denominations, we met last week and broke bread Brethren style. We used leavened bread and gluten free crackers because Jesse is celiac and a couple others are gluten intolerant.
Was there any "stumbling blocks" for the children of God as Evan has warned us?
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Was there any "stumbling blocks" for the children of God as Evan has warned us?
I would hope we would try to avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law. Don’t we know they are unprofitable and worthless?
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