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Old 07-04-2018, 09:33 AM   #1
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I'm not sure of your point - please explain. Are you saying nothing good at all came out of "The Recovery?" If so, I disagree. I know I was very specifically lead of the Lord 2500 miles to CJ's Old Garage in Berkeley in 1974 - a semi-miraculous event, to be sure! The Lord has shown me there was much good to come out there, and that He preserved me from the not so good. This is what He does.

My intention here is to provide a little balance to the overwhelming amount of posts that are completely on the negative side concerning all things LC.
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:55 PM   #2
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I’m not crediting anyone or anything but God for that which is good, but you made my point for me. You were led of the Lord, not “the recovery”. The miracle was His doing, not “the recovery”. The Lord showed you...He preserved you...this is what He does. He put you where he wanted you so he could do his work in you. Was that because of where you were (the recovery) or because of his Sovereignty?

Whatever good exists is because He is good. I’m providing perspective to your balance.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:36 AM   #3
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I’m not crediting anyone or anything but God for that which is good, but you made my point for me. You were led of the Lord, not “the recovery”. The miracle was His doing, not “the recovery”. The Lord showed you...He preserved you...this is what He does. He put you where he wanted you so he could do his work in you. Was that because of where you were (the recovery) or because of his Sovereignty?

Whatever good exists is because He is good. I’m providing perspective to your balance.
That is exactly right! He has done it and is doing it. He places members in the body as He sees fit.

My testimony is that when I had a strong experience of Him in Ohio when I was 18, I distinctly prayed, "Lord, take me to be with those who love you like I do." A week later I hitchhiked 2500 miles across country, and within a couple hours of hitting Berkeley I was miraculously lead of Him straight to CJ's Old Garage where the LC in Berkeley was meeting at the time. I had little idea about anything, but I knew He put me there! Why didn't He place me with ones in Ohio? I don't know, except that He loves me. It was all the best and according to His will. Perfect. Period.

Quite recently He showed me that He's had the bulls-eye painted right here (Scottsdale) all along, that I would be here. But many things needed to happen in order to prepare all that. He's amazing!!!!
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My intention here is to provide a little balance to the overwhelming amount of posts that are completely on the negative side concerning all things LC.
Thank you... There is no doubt in me God led me to the LC in 1975. It is where I became rooted and grounded in the Word of God. I experienced wonderful fellowship.. many times it was fun! FUN !! I had FUN in the LC!

I sought the LORD and the LORD won. I sought the SON and the SON Won. (thinking of the melody 'I fought the law and the law won. I fought the law and the law one).

So sorry for those who suffered and continue to suffer through the legalism and controlling reigns of the LR. May God give them the Grace and Strength, the Wisdom and Insight to throw out the dirty bathwater but not JESUS.

Remember JESUS will never leave you or forsake you and He makes all things new.

From Psalm 103:4-5
He redeems your life from the pit,
HE crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;
(Jesus) satisfies your years with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.



Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your understanding.
Proverbs 3:5

Showers of Healing Blessings to all.
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So sorry for those who suffered and continue to suffer through the legalism and controlling reigns of the LR. May God give them the Grace and Strength, the Wisdom and Insight to throw out the dirty bathwater but not JESUS.

Remember JESUS will never leave you or forsake you and He makes all things new.
Yes and amen! A leading bro here said the same thing recently when discussing the LC, regarding throwing out the dirty bathwater but not JESUS!

That sums up what I see here in Scottsdale. We do our best to focus on Christ and His two commandments: Love God & each other. This same bro said at breakfast this morning that he believes this is what God will look for at the Bema - "How did you handle my Son and those He lives in?"

Sovereignly Bill Freeman got the boot from the LC 30 years ago. Then there was a "house cleaning" in Scottsdale 20 years ago. God loves me so much, I almost feel like He did these things just for me! So I don't need to swim in the dirty bathwater, and can just be here enjoying Christ . . . accepted in the Beloved with all the saints!

As I've mentioned in this thread, some of the LC practices were quite sound and useful, so the saints here kept those. Things such as the open meetings with sharing and testimonies. This is so healthy and nourishing to all. And there is no overt (or even covert) insistence on any author or particular teaching - though we hope it is Christ centered and shared in love!
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