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Old 05-05-2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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Roman Catholic Church (Thyatira), Protestantism (Sardis), Philadelphia, and even Laodicea.
Yeah, Lord's Recovery (Philadelphia)
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Yeah, Lord's Recovery (Philadelphia)


Hey ... I looked, and searched the whole New Testament, and found no such word "recovery" anywhere -- upper or lowercase -- in relation to anything, even the church in Philadelphia. It's an extra-Biblical word ... an addon ... not even found in any of the Greek manuscripts, early or later ones. It's a Lee invention ... prolly originated with the scalawag Nee.
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Hey ... I looked, and searched the whole New Testament, and found no such word "recovery" anywhere -- upper or lowercase -- in relation to anything, even the church in Philadelphia. It's an extra-Biblical word ... an addon ... not even found in any of the Greek manuscripts, early or later ones. It's a Lee invention ... prolly originated with the scalawag Nee.
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There is recover, recovered, and recovering in the Bible. That should be acceptable but if not you should be aware that there is not a single instance of the word “awareness” in the Bible. Prolly your invention.

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My hair color, assuming I have hair, is irrelevant. I’ll allow my age is relevant in the context we are discussing.

Do you include the local churches as branch of Christianity? If so, then based on your assessment but for different reasons you agree that there is basis for “poor poor Christianity “.

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There is recover, recovered, and recovering in the Bible. That should be acceptable but if not you should be aware that there is not a single instance of the word “awareness” in the Bible. Prolly your invention.

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The word denomination is not in the bible. Oh dear.
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The word denomination is not in the bible. Oh dear.
I don’t recall catholic big “C” or little “c” in the Bible.

Neither “Lutheran” or “Episcopalian “ or Mennonite.

Thankfully language is dynamic and evolves.

Can you imagine being restricted to just using only words in the Bible to express our thoughts?

“I’ll send you a text from my my mobile to let you know when I will pick you up on my motorcycle and take you to Starbucks for a coffee where i will order a venti Frappuccino with whipped cream, and you a Latte, and I’ll pay with my credit card”.

How would one express that idea only using words available in the Bible?

Just sayin.

The things we get hung up on.

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I don’t recall catholic big “C” or little “c” in the Bible.

Neither “Lutheran” or “Episcopalian “ or Mennonite.

Thankfully language is dynamic and evolves.

Can you imagine being restricted to just using only words in the Bible to express our thoughts?

“I’ll send you a text from my my mobile to let you know when I will pick you up on my motorcycle and take you to Starbucks for a coffee where i will order a venti Frappuccino with whipped cream, and you a Latte, and I’ll pay with my credit card”.

How would one express that idea only using words available in the Bible?

Just sayin.

The things we get hung up on.

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But you guys at LSM are just fine because you have your own legal defense team ready and willing to file lawsuits against any naysayers ... all legitimized by words from the Bible such as the Defense and Confirmation of the Gospel.

I see how this works. Let's just rename your Beyonce worship to "High Peak Praise and Worship in the Local Church in San Francisco." I got all those words from the Bible. So all is well, eh?
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I don’t recall catholic big “C” or little “c” in the Bible.

Neither “Lutheran” or “Episcopalian “ or Mennonite.

Thankfully language is dynamic and evolves.

Can you imagine being restricted to just using only words in the Bible to express our thoughts?

“I’ll send you a text from my my mobile to let you know when I will pick you up on my motorcycle and take you to Starbucks for a coffee where i will order a venti Frappuccino with whipped cream, and you a Latte, and I’ll pay with my credit card”.

How would one express that idea only using words available in the Bible?

Just sayin.

The things we get hung up on.

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This is a brilliant observation bro Drake. Likewise, can you imagine "recovering" back to those Bible days?

Isn't that as ludicrous as using only Bible words today? Can you imagine all the saints in the local churches only speaking Aramaic, or Koine Greek?

Now wouldn't that distinguish one church one city?

And the world look and say, 'look at those poor, poor, poor, Christians.'
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This is a brilliant observation bro Drake. Likewise, can you imagine "recovering" back to those Bible days?

Isn't that as ludicrous as using only Bible words today? Can you imagine all the saints in the local churches only speaking Aramaic, or Koine Greek?

Now wouldn't that distinguish one church one city?

And the world look and say, 'look at those poor, poor, poor, Christians.'
Brilliant? Why I.... oh you...shush now... you’re just saying that... trying to make me blush...



But, language evolves. Biblical truth is not progressive. Beyoncé worshippers probably use that progressive logic to justify their practice as do those groups listed by Evangelical. The Anglican Church ostracized the Episcopalian Church for newer aberrant beliefs and practices. Rightly so. Yet, the 39 Articles embraced by the Anglican Church were a progression themselves not coming straight from the Bible. I think all those make a case for getting back to the beginning. If all Christians believed and practiced their church life according to the Bible it wouldn’t be so poor, would it?

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Hey ... I looked, and searched the whole New Testament, and found no such word "recovery" anywhere -- upper or lowercase -- in relation to anything, even the church in Philadelphia. It's an extra-Biblical word ... an addon ... not even found in any of the Greek manuscripts, early or later ones. It's a Lee invention ... prolly originated with the scalawag Nee.
Why is it in the bible dictionary then?
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/recover/

Lee used it as if it was taken straight out of the bible dictionary. Can't argue with that.
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Yeah, Lord's Recovery (Philadelphia)
It was John Darby and the Exclusives (after he excommunicated George Muller and all the others) who developed this prophetical view of the 7 churches in Revelation. (Codified in Miller's Church History) And, of course, Philadelphia referred to only them!

W. Nee then bashed the Brethren for excommunicating him, and he decided his movement was now "Philadelphia."

When W. Lee came to the USA, he did the same -- historical revisionism to suit his purpose.

Take a walk down the streets of Philadelphia, PA one summer evening and you can see the value of a good "name."
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