A Woman of Chayil: Far Above Rubies by Jane Carole Anderson

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Originally Posted by Drake

OBW"The life that the Spirit gives is God's life."

Right. And what is the Greek word used for life that the Spirit gives?

Drake

Provide the verse. I did a quick search and the use of the word "life," even when coupled with God does not make reference to the life of God, but rather to the life that we obtain. You can make an argument that this means that it is the adding of the life of God that is actually being talked about. But in the examples I came up with, I do not find any such reference. Rather, it is clear that we are given life, eternal life, etc., but I don't find "God's life" defined.

And while I would expect that the word used for it would be zoe, that would not be because it is God's life and that is the definition, but because the life that God has could hardly be described as other than the fullest of lives.

But despite that, even if all the other verses make reference to man having or experiencing zoe, it does not say that they are experiencing God's life, but life (my living) that is zoe.

That still does not define zoe as exclusively God's life.

You need to ask yourself why it is that you are stuck on the idea that if it is zoe it is God's life. There is nothing found in the Bible that makes any such claim. The world was not missing the word "zoe" until it started being used for the purpose of describing God's life.

No. Zoe was fullness of life. Or all that life is. Not just the biology or psychology. You are stuck on an A is B therefore B is A logic error. Just as the Rangers are a baseball team (not talking hockey today), but "baseball team" is not simply the Rangers. In the same way, God's life is clearly zoe, but zoe is not simply God's life. Therefore, even in the Bible, unless it is clearly talking about God's life, and not our life (as it was, is, or could be) zoe does not mean God's life. It just means fullness of life.

Now is when you ignore me and ask another "zoe simply means God's life" question.

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Drake,

One more thing to consider. Even if you successfully argue that some of the verses are talking about our life when the life of God is added, it is still talking about the life that we live as a result of that, not the life that God lives. In gospel terms, it is a sales pitch. It is telling you how much better YOUR life could be. God gives excellent life.

BTW. All of the life that we have came from God. So why don't we have zoe all the time?

The answer is because zoe is not an ingredient. It is a state of being. Bios is something that is. It is tangible. While psuche is not so tangible, it is still the working of our being in the way that we operate as living humans. But zoe is how you live as a biologically and psychologically alive person. Is your whole living mundane or is it zoe. Is it full.

God's life is surely full. But it is not the definition of zoe. Or full. A very good example. But not the definition.