A Woman of Chayil: Far Above Rubies by Jane Carole Anderson

[Nell]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

...Straw-man's are part and parcel of this sort of discussion - grow up and get over it. I'm not asking for respect...

Just a reminder, in his own words, that "Evangelical" is not interested in a serious discussion of any topic. His penchant for derailing, baiting, strawman arguments and inflammatory rhetoric is his MO since he believes such is "part and parcel of this sort of discussion...". Anyone who disagrees with him needs to "grow up and get over it". Respect is not important to him so he feels under no obligation to show respect to other forum members.

Include now deflecting from the request/s of the Moderator to dial it down.

Nell

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Nell

Just a reminder, in his own words, that "Evangelical" is not interested in a serious discussion of any topic. His penchant for derailing, bait, strawman arguments and inflammatory rhetoric is his MO since he believes such is "part and parcel of this sort of discussion...". Anyone who disagrees with him needs to "grow up and get over it". Respect is not important to him so he feels under no obligation to show respect to other forum members.

Include now deflecting from the request/s of the Moderator to dial it down.

Nell

What I'm trying to "dial down" is what you said about certain bible translations of certain passages being lemons. I don't care if a person is pushing a feminist, LGBT or multi-faith agenda, as soon as the bible translation is called into question it makes me wonder.

In regards to your quote of my post, what I said was in response to what you said about my posts being crap after I questioned why you weren't used theological resources?

Your response was essentially, "if you want respect, you have to give some, I can't take anything you say seriously, most of what you say is crap".

So we can see that my point about respect not being important, is in the context of why aren't you using theological resources? You or I don't need respect to do a Google Search and find out the facts for ourselves.

But on this topic I think you calling certain passages of the bible "lemon translations" is a bit of a stretch. There is a line between writing a book to help former members of the local church and support women, and claiming the bible translations are wrong. To me it's just one piece of the larger pie that seeks to undo history and rewrite everything to suite populist ideals.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Nell

Just a reminder, in his own words, that "Evangelical" is not interested in a serious discussion of any topic. His penchant for derailing, baiting, strawman arguments and inflammatory rhetoric is his MO since he believes such is "part and parcel of this sort of discussion...". Anyone who disagrees with him needs to "grow up and get over it". Respect is not important to him so he feels under no obligation to show respect to other forum members.

Include now deflecting from the request/s of the Moderator to dial it down.

Nell

Evangelical provides very detailed and thoughtful responses, well researched, scriptural based, and patiently clarifies himself. The forum is lucky to have him.

It does not matter whether women or any other demographic group were involved in translating the bible. If there is an objection to the translation of a verse, resources are readily available to present a case.

Yet, there are many translations of the Bible into different languages and the translators are not all white male. Julia Smith translated the Bible from original languages into English. It is too broad of a brush to categorically dismiss verses mentioning women and submission as "lemons" That is not say that every verse is bias free, on the contrary some may be, so, I think visiting the original languages and manuscripts is a good approach and if Jane Anderson has a point of view then let's see it. I'm willing to hear her out on one or more of these "lemon"verses. 1 Timothy 2 is very instructive providing an explanation as to why (v14).

Drake