My story and a plea for your insight

[Drake]

Originally Posted by aron

But where in my post was the suggestion not to repent, turn, call?

Otherwise, you seem to be saying, "Don't worry about righteousness, or truth. Just call "O Lord Jeeezus three times" . . or if the untruth or unrighteousness is really egregious, then call "O Lord Jeeeezus" six times. And then everything will be fine.

Um, no.

aron,

what is it about tasinee's refreshing experience that is lacking?

Drake

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Drake

aron,

what is it about tasinee's refreshing experience that is lacking?

Drake

What you refuse to acknowledge is the context for his refreshing experience.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Ohio

What you refuse to acknowledge is the context for his refreshing experience.

surely I need to repent. Surely. Jesus taught, "Forgive us our trespasses..."; don't I need to apply this, and ask forgiveness? Nothing in Tasinee's point was lacking.

But where in that do we address the chaos that she saw in the LCM? Does it all just go away by calling "Oh Lord Jeeezus" a number of times? Or "aaaayyyemaeennnn..." a few times? Where is the refreshing, there? And the injustice stands? The wrong teachings remain wrong?

Nothing in Tasinee's experience was wrong, per se. But nothing in mine was addressed by Drake. Just avoided. "Call O Lord Jeeeezus". . .

When I came to the word, and saw Christ, as the writer of Hebrews did (2:9) and it was in texts which Lee panned as "fallen and natural", telling us all they were just the natural expression of the self-absorbed David and the erroneous compilers of the OT text, then I had a choice. Do I just call "O Lord" and go on, pretending I didn't see Jesus? Or do I say, like Luther, "Here I stand"? Clearly I took the second route. But nothing in my stand obviates seasons of refreshing. In fact it is a continuation.

But as Drake said, that is my opinion. He and the rest of the LCM have Lee's opinion. I don't have any problem with that.

And as I've said before, I do apologize, and repent, if the tenor of my posts was wrong. I am not perfect, nor do I presume perfect understanding. My spirit is probably not so pure. But I attempt, here, to point to the One who is. That is my stand.

[Drake]

aron" Nothing in Tasinee's point was lacking."

Okay aron.

I thought tasinee's refreshing experience was a good reminder to us all. An out of the mouth of babes reminder. I addressed you because you referenced tasinee's comment in what appeared to be a way of discounting it and in the act of discounting you seemed less than refreshed, a type of contra indication of tasinee's renewal toward the Lord.

Sometimes, in the heat of different viewpoints we forget that we are all brothers and sisters here. You may disagree with me and my viewpoints and vice-versa but I think it prudent and wise not to dismiss the positive experience that draws one closer to the Lord especially from one who is tender to the Lord in a moment. I do not want, and neither do I think you want, to discourage or stumble such a one but would rather affirm the simple yet significant touch with the Lord.

This is a forum with many places to express our viewpoints. Not every thread needs to be a platform or a "speaker's corner" or an occasion to do it.

Have a very refreshing weekend,
Drake

[aron]

Drake,

In referencing Tasinee, you wrote, "Just repeat this and you will be fine", which is the oversimplification that i remember so well. And the fact that many who leave and are dis-oriented, and this may indicate mind control techniques at work, reinforces my idea. "Just call O Lord" and everything bad vanishes like majick, and those who point out that bad stuff remains will themselves vanish like magick. Quarantined- pouf!

But i do repent, and expect refreshings to come. And as Paul wrote to the Galatians, i do hope to change my tone (4:20).

[Drake]

Originally Posted by aron

Drake,

In referencing Tasinee, you wrote, "Just repeat this and you will be fine", which is the oversimplification that i remember so well. And the fact that many who leave and are dis-oriented, and this may indicate mind control techniques at work, reinforces my idea. "Just call O Lord" and everything bad vanishes like majick, and those who point out that bad stuff remains will themselves vanish like magick. Quarantined- pouf!

But i do repent, and expect refreshings to come. And as Paul wrote to the Galatians, i do hope to change my tone (4:20).

aron,

I personally never received much help by just repeating words. But then neither do I receive much help when I am just mental about things. A bad attitude can also be a barrier to His blessing. When I said, "just repeat this and you will be fine" I referred to the whole of the experience tasinee described.

"So, I realized that, and I repented, and opened my heart to Him, to heal my wounds and restore my heart into relationship with Him. I spontaneously started calling upon His name and opening to Him when I had a moment of solitude, and I felt so refreshed, like I haven't for a long time."

I realized, I repented, I opened my heart, I asked, I desired a relationship, I spontaneously, I called on His name, I opened some more... and then I felt so refreshed like haven't for a long time.

It does not get any better than that in touching the Lord. Wouldn't you agree? I think if you would set aside all the bad things that have happened in your life, all the negative thoughts, just toss them into the lake of fire so to speak, or lay them at the Lord's feet and allow Him to do what he wants with them. and in a moment of solitude touch the Lord in the same way as tasinee did then you would agree also that the Lord's refreshing is the choicest of experiences from Him.

That is what I was encouraging tasinee to repeat. Tasinee would then be fine, you would be fine, and I would be fine.

Drake

[aron]

Drake,

You're right; I probably oversimplified in my reaction; the very thing which I held that you'd done, in saying, "Just repeat this and you will be fine". (But you have to admit that the LCM oeuvre is full of such sloganeering!) Please forgive me if I mistakenly saw something in your post which wasn't actually there.

But then, one could also say,

I realized that we all need to stay away from evil mind control cults claiming that they alone have God's provenance whilst all other assemblies are devoid of Christ, and I saw that we should hold ALL scripture as inspired by God and not merely those portions of scripture that we can align with a recently created remnant dispensationalist theology.

If we simply do this, then everything should be fine. Thanks for your clarifying comments.