Couldn't resist the moniker

[UnderGrace]

Hi everyone,

I have been a lurker over at the Bereans site for quite some time and now one at this site. This will be my first post ever. So please bear with me as I might make some mistakes. Regarding a reference/moniker for this site I thought of "Discovery" which might be a good fit. The Synonyms are very close to many of our experiences in the LC. Their definitions describe our situation and exactly what ex-LCers are doing today...

Here are the definitions of "Discovery" according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

1 a: the act or process of discovering
b (1)archaic : disclosure
(2)obsolete : display
c obsolete : exploration
2: something discovered
3: the usually pretrial disclosure of pertinent facts or documents by one or both parties to a legal action or proceeding

"Discover" is transitive verb
1 a: to make known or visible : expose
b archaic : display
2 a: to obtain sight or knowledge of for the first time : find <discover the solution>
b: find out <discovered he was out of gas>

Synonyms: discover, ascertain, determine, unearth, learn mean to find out what one did not previously know. discover may apply to something requiring exploration or investigation or to a chance encounter <discovered the source of the river>. ascertain implies effort to find the facts or the truth proceeding from awareness of ignorance or uncertainty <attempts to ascertain the population of the region>. determine emphasizes the intent to establish the facts definitely or precisely <unable to determine the origin of the word>. unearth implies bringing to light something forgotten or hidden <unearth old records>. learn may imply acquiring knowledge with little effort or conscious intention (as by simply being told) or it may imply study and practice <I learned her name only today> <learning Greek>.

There is life abundant after the LC as we are discovering the truth in the Word and the facts which had been hidden from us for so many decades. It is so refreshing to have found a group of believers who truly seek after Him, are following Him and not a fallible man.

UnderGrace

PS: This is only worth 2 cents since it's my first post.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by UnderGrace

Hi everyone,

I have been a lurker over at the Bereans site for quite some time and now one at this site. This will be my first post ever. There is life abundant after the LC as we are discovering the truth in the Word and the facts which had been hidden from us for so many decades. It is so refreshing to have found a group of believers who truly seek after Him, are following Him and not a fallible man.

UnderGrace

PS: This is only worth 2 cents since it's my first post.

Here's waving at ya, Undergrace.......so glad you discovered us ! And this might be your first post.........but those .02 cents are GOLD!! They're worth a lot!!

Now....... don't forget to post your testimony of how you came into the LC..how long you were in it..and what led you out.

'Inquiring & Curious minds' want to know!

And to the ADMN: Uh.......could you somehow come up with some more smilies for us? Much obliged sir!

[UnderGrace]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Now....... don't forget to post your testimony of how you came into the LC..how long you were in it..and what led you out.

'Inquiring & Curious minds' want to know!

Thank you COUNTMEWORTHY for your encouragement. Indeed I have discovered all of you Rivercrossers at the Crossroads and am very blessed!!!

At this time I am not ready to reveal where I am coming from. By giving the testimony of how I came into the LC, the duration I was in the system and how I finally got out of it will surely "blow my cover". At the moment I'm not comfortable in doing so. I want to be able to freely express how I feel on issues if I would post again. At least you know that much I was in the LC and now am out of it. May be at a later date I might feel led by the Lord to have the freedom to write something of that nature in the forum. I hope you would understand. Thank you for asking and showing the interest.

Before I forget, I would like to tell you that I have always enjoyed your sharing and testimonies.

UnderGrace

[finallyprettyokay]

Welcome, UnderGrace.

We are glad to have you here and posting. And we all understand your feeling the need for privacy. I certainly understand.

Welcome aboard!!!

FPO

[aron]

Originally Posted by UnderGrace

Hi everyone,

I have been a lurker over at the Bereans site for quite some time and now one at this site. This will be my first post ever. So please bear with me as I might make some mistakes. Regarding a reference/moniker for this site I thought of "Discovery" which might be a good fit. The Synonyms are very close to many of our experiences in the LC. Their definitions describe our situation and exactly what ex-LCers are doing today...

Hi UnderGrace,

Thanks for posting, welcome. I like the word discovery because it is in line with my previously stated sentiments about 'discussion' (as in "Local Church Discussions", our present letterhead), which is closely related to one of my favorite words, 'conversation'. You see, a conversation is a process where 2 people engage in mutual discovery. This contrasts to a lecture, where one person talks and the other (ostensibly) learns. I think many of us sat through a few of those!

In the local churches it was not called a 'lecture' or a 'sermon', it was called a 'meeting', or a 'training', or some such, but it was really a speech by Lee, with a few 'amens' at the end; the good ones simply repeated Lee word for word without adding a new word or thought of their own.

I prefer conversations to lectures. I prefer discussions to arguments. And I prefer a process of mutual discovery to one where only one person gets to have all the fun, and explore, and the rest of us have to sit there and take notes. Why did Lee only get to figure out what the Bible said? God put brains in us as well as human spirits and hearts. Don't be afraid to think, y'all. Don't be afraid to discover. God is good.

That's my 'amen' to UnderGrace's idea.

aron

[countmeworthy]

Looks like the Rivercrossers were at crossroads when they made a DISCOVERY!

Corny & silly but cute....even if only I think so.

[aron]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Looks like the Rivercrossers were at crossroads when they made a DISCOVERY!

I wanted to say something like that, but I didn't dare!

[UnderGrace]

Originally Posted by aron

Hi UnderGrace,

... the good ones simply repeated Lee word for word without adding a new word or thought of their own.

I prefer conversations to lectures. I prefer discussions to arguments. And I prefer a process of mutual discovery to one where only one person gets to have all the fun, and explore, and the rest of us have to sit there and take notes. Why did Lee only get to figure out what the Bible said? God put brains in us as well as human spirits and hearts. Don't be afraid to think, y'all. Don't be afraid to discover. God is good.

That's my 'amen' to UnderGrace's idea.

aron

Hi Aron,

Thanks for your warm welcome and the "amen" to "Discovery". What you wrote was very well put. It was exactly my feeling at the time when I had this thought that "Discovery" could be a good fit for people to refer to this forum. However I just couldn't put it into words the way you did. Thank you for being in your mind and using your "brain".

I have been to almost all the trainings, live or video. When it came to the testing time I could never understand why I had to utter brother Lee's or BB's messages word for word. If I felt led to go up there I usually shared my own thoughts. No wonder I didn't get too many "amens". I was not supposed to do that!!! I was told that brother Lee and the BBs were afraid that the saints would say it wrong or misconstrue the teachings. They want to play it safe and we must play out the messages like a "tape recorder" so we won't screw things up because we don't necessarily have the correct utterance. The saints ended up memorizing the portions they were going to share, got up there, tried hard to be in their spirit and hoped that they wouldn't miss anything. As long as they did that they would pass the test. Is this supposed to be the demonstration of "thinking the same thing" and "speaking the same thing"? To this day, I still don't understand the point to this kind of exercise. It was too mechanical to my taste. Oops, not supposed to have my own natural taste!!! Shouldn't the saints share what they have come away with after hearing a message? It would be more meaningful, encouraging and life-giving. That's my opinion anyway. Oops, not supposed to have opinions too!!!

Please keep posting as I really enjoy what you have to say...

UnderGrace

[YP0534]

Originally Posted by UnderGrace

Shouldn't the saints share what they have come away with after hearing a message? It would be more meaningful, encouraging and life-giving.

All I have to say to this is,

Hallelujah!