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I view the paper as a thinly-veiled whitewash, attempting to cover the absurdity of an institutionalized movement which was founded on rejection of every other movement as the product of fallen humanity's organizational efforts. Somehow this new organization wasn't one at all, but a living organism. Yet every other organization by contrast was dead, lifeless, hopelessly corrupt. So you see naive statements like "no staff devoted to outreach or enrollment" when it's exactly the opposite. All those help-ful "co-workers" and "trainers" exist to suck others into the same system. These pseudo-scholarly efforts remind me of the Mormons holding a conference in Provo, Utah, and inviting Christian scholars to participate. They don't care for the Dead Sea Scrolls, but they want to use reputable scholarship, so they hold a conference to paper over thier cult status. I don't consider the LC to be a cult on par with the LDS, but the principle this is the same: a post-protestant fringe sect reliant on the legitimacy of Protestant institutions it left, even while it decries them as whorish Babylonian abominations. What hymns do they sing in the FTTA? Ones by Luther, Darby, Wesley, Crosby, Cowper, Newton et al. - while they deny any association with "Christianity", which in their narrative has fallen into institutional torpor.
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When WL came to the U.S., he stumbled upon a period of social unrest and change. It obviously worked to his advantage in terms of getting the LCM started and up on its feet. The issues that the denominations were facing at the time is what I would characterize as an inability to adapt and change with the times. This of course, was related to high levels of structure, organization and institutionalized practices. The solution to the problem, however, was very simple. Many just chose to “move on” to other groups, like Ohio has mentioned. There was really no need to look back and criticize. But what Lee did instead of acknowledging that others had perceived the same problems and had also moved on to form their own groups, he took a cheap shot at denominations. It made it really easy for him to paint the LCM as something vastly superior when what he was comparing it to was an institutionalized form of Christianity whose relevancy had already been called into question. Unlike others, he couldn't simply move on, he had to use every opportunity to make the LC appear to be so 'special'.
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As I see it, WL never really "moved on" from what he seemed so terribly concerned about. He only moved far enough away to gain space to start his own group, which quickly began to posses the characteristics of things that he criticized. The problem that faces the LC today is they greatly treasure their institutionalized practices and traditions, yet in the public eye, they have to find ways to rationalize their badmouthing of other Christians. What do they badmouth Christians for? For being 'traditional' and organized. Arguably, the LCM embraces a form of practice that is arguably much more institutionalized than even some of the most organized groups. Just look at how easily they get into squabbles about issues like using electric guitars and drums in meetings. For a group that supposedly has no organization, it's kind of funny how everyone can exhibit a uniform practice across every LC you visit.
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Look at how Nee and Lee are cast by their apologists: Quote:
And, where did the NT expositors reject the OT text as fallen and natural? Where? Yet this kind of thinking became the basis of the "practical oneness" of the LC programme, rigorously enforced in the various assemblies as it is promoted in the Full Time Training. The subjective experiences of Witness Lee are the lodestone of the LC programme, and the only means of ascertaining "Christ". The "extemporaneity" which Mr. Chang cites is merely that of Mssrs Nee and Lee. Everyone else was and is expected to "get in line" and "hand over". Nee made that clear, once he'd assumed total control, and Lee then propped up Nee as his ticket to the top. Nee was the Seer of the Age, Lee his hand-picked successor, and no one can possibly deviate from their subjective and mystical experiences. In fact when Lee died nobody was allowed to be Guru, anymore. The Age of Spiritual Giants was over, they said. What kind of institution do you think will follow that line of thinking? A museum, or perhaps a mausoleum.
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![]() That highlights how the LC operates. They give LC members the impression that the LCM represents a fresh/living atmosphere where everyone can follow God in the absence of tradition, organization, etc. But as it turns out, 'fresh' or 'living' is synonymous with subjectivity, something only a WL was allowed to define.
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Peter and John and Paul were followed scrupulously in handling the text; occasionally Peter and James were not. But where no NT citation forced his hand, WL could allow his subjective assessments to act as objectve realty itself, for him and his group. No other reality was even imagined -it didn't matter that Peter and Paul in Acts, and the writer of Hebrews, and John's gospel had given an open invitation to construct other narratives from scripture. And WL's imagination thus became the basis of LC reality. The existence of the FTTA is to codify and institutionalize WL's subjective experience.
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That sad truth is that the FTT has one and only purpose. No one identifies this purpose better than WL's hand-selected FTTT trainers who were quoted as calling it a "Witness Lee duplication center." That's exactly what the FTTA is today. Impressionable young adults are sent there to learn how to recite WL teachings. So this is WL's true legacy. He left behind a pattern to follow where people can learn to live, act and talk like he once did.
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Right. And when it get right down to it most people probably instinctively get this. As much as the LCM wants to believe the FTT is about spreading "the truth," it's really about spreading Witness Lee's truth. It's really about get more people hooked on Witness Lee.
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