The Holy Spirit

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Originally Posted by aron

When you see the "gates of Hades", when you see the rebellious angels held in dark pits awaiting judgment, when you see Jesus going and preaching to the disobedient angels, when you have Jesus saying that an evil spirit goes out from a man and flies around in waterless places seeking rest, when Jesus teaches that there is a pleasant section and a suffering section of Hades, there being a vast and unbridgable gulf between them, all this is from the Book of Enoch.

So is much of the movie Noah, btw.

Enoch also elaborates on the sons of God mentioned in Gen. 6. There were 200 of those bad boys (women always go for the bad boys, it is said -- and ya can't beat a son of God -- compete with that bro aron).

Enoch doesn't answer the question of how angels, or sons God -- invisible spirit beings -- could function sexually like a human male. And what about DNA differences? Humans can't mate with apes, for example.

But I guess sons of God, being sons of God, can do anything and take any form .. like Zeus, taking human form to produce mortal or half mortal offspring - it's an old and widespread motif.

Originally Posted by aron

About Enoch becoming the great angel I have never heard.

I know. Pretty wild stuff. Yet the book reads like the book of Rev. ; many parallels between them. Both books, as I pointed out in passing, are multivalent in symbologies, messages, & meanings ; that can apply to any possible thing, situation, time, and age. They leave lots -- very lots -- to the imagination.

And Enoch has lots of spirits and angels and the like. Right up yer alley bro aron. And fun reading to boot.

Originally Posted by aron

I would have to check the source of that teaching.

Good luck with that. Can we source the book of Rev.? If we say, "The Holy Spirit," perhaps the writing of Enoch could be claimed to be the same.

Originally Posted by aron

Certainly it doesn't seem like it's from the Bible itself . . .

Bible, what Bible? Enoch was 250 yrs or more before any NT books were written. And the OT canon wasn't settled by then. So what Bible do you speak of?