How much is a "Morning Revival"?

[aron]

Originally Posted by Eph

Yes, please, Aron. I am sincere as well as Carol. Just by knowing a little about how God loves me through His only Son helps someone like me. I don't have the gift to speak about Him publicly, but I do believe some of you on the forum have a gift to share with many of us about how God loves us in our daily life.

Thank you for the invitation but I must demur*. I'm not qualified to give lessons. Besides, this is the internet, a virtual world, so I don't really buy deeply into it. I just post here occasionally because I like to write; I don't want to become a preacher who has to churn our a sermon every Sunday morning. But I will leave you with a couple of ideas to consider.

1. What you do to others, God will do to you. Believe me, how you treat "the least of these my brothers" is how God will treat you. Over and over this message is given in the gospels. The parables say the same thing, 15 different ways. Even the so-called "Lord's prayer" has this formula, with commentary even (!).

"Forgive us, even as we forgive others". What you do to others is what God will do to you.

In the LSM system, they will give a college Freshman a ride to the airport at 2 am because they expect a return on their investment. But an old lady? "Don't waste your time" is the FTTA directive. Instead, "Go after the good building material." But the Lord Jesus said to invite those who have no means to repay you. The LSM system only wants to "invest" in those who promise them a good return.

If you feel poor, weak, sick, or lost, think about this: there is someone near you even poorer, sicker, weaker, and more lost than you are. Tell them God loves them. Tell them about Jesus who came here because their Father in heaven loves them, and wants them to come home. Tell them, because it is true. And as you begin to help others, God will begin to help you. If you want to be blessed, then figure out how to be a blessing to others; believe me, God is watching you, and waiting for you to take a few small steps of faith. If "Help me" is your only prayer, God can't do much. If you pray, "God, use me to help others" you will be blessed beyond your capacity, beyond what you could possibly imagine.

2. DO NOT MAKE PLANS. I cannot overstress this. Do not tell the Holy Spirit what it should do, or how and when it should do it. Only the Father's will is done on earth, as it is in heaven. The Father knows everything. The Holy Spirit will never obey you; it only obeys the Father. You and I know nothing. All we are supposed to know is A) repent, and B) believe into the Lord Jesus Christ**. This is the path of salvation. Don't add your ideas to the pathway. They will perish and you will suffer loss.

I would remind you that 74 people went up onto the holy mountain, and saw God, and ate and drank, and God did not strike them. God invited them up there for lunch. They saw the pavement of sapphire. They saw the seven spirits burning before the throne.***

But only 72 made it down. Two of them made plans, and lit a fire. Bad move. Only seven flames are permitted to burn before the throne, not eight. The scriptural record then says "fire came out from before the throne and consumed them". Those seven flames are very jealous. Don't try to add another, of your own making. They are like the flaming swords in Genesis, turning each way; they will never let you get back to the Father. Only Jesus is qualified to walk among the seven golden lampstands. Everyone else will be consumed. Don't try it. Just watch Jesus. Watch Him carefully. He shows us the way.

Just watch Jesus. Never take your eyes off of Him. Then you will have a very rich entrance into the kingdom. Peter told us this, and Peter was a big failure, like you and me. So be encouraged, and press on. Don't ever give up. Those who endure to the end will be saved. We have the promise. Believe it and keep going.


*Demur = show reluctance

** The disciples asked, "Lord, what work should we do, that we may work the works of God?" The Lord Jesus replied, "Believe into Him whom God has sent".

***So I surmise, as Moses apparently built the "Menorah" according to what he saw on the mountain. See John's commentary in the book of Revelation

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by aron

"Forgive us, even as we forgive others". What you do to others is what God will do to you.

Reminds me of the topic at hand between me and a friend of mine: FORGIVENESS AND MERCY. We had a great conversation on those two words: Forgiveness and Mercy. Forgive as God has forgiven us. Extend Mercy as GOD has given us Mercy.

If you feel poor, weak, sick, or lost, think about this: there is someone near you even poorer, sicker, weaker, and more lost than you are. Tell them God loves them.

Tell yourself that too ! Start Thanking God for loving you, for having mercy on you, for forgiving you. Thank Him for the beautiful day, for making you smile. The more you thank Him, the more He will show you how blessed you are. As you feel your spirit come alive, Praise Him for His Goodness.
Thanksgiving, Praise and Worship are essential keys that will 'resurrect' you. Then people will say "Wow! Look what great things GOD has done for you!" The Great things are the LIGHT, the LOVE, the JOY of the Lord in you. Let not your heart be troubled. Believe that Jesus came that you would have Life and have it more abundantly until it overflows...it isn't only ETERNAL Life...but an Abundant Life..spiritual, emotional..physical..and even financial on this earth while we await to hear the Shout, the Voice of the Archangel and the TRUMPET of GOD.

I speak from experience.

If you want to be blessed, then figure out how to be a blessing to others; believe me, God is watching you, and waiting for you to take a few small steps of faith. If "Help me" is your only prayer, God can't do much. If you pray, "God, use me to help others" you will be blessed beyond your capacity, beyond what you could possibly imagine.

YES!! READ AND SPEAK FAITH (HEBREWS 11)

Do not tell the Holy Spirit what it should do, or how and when it should do it.

HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT AN IT. HE IS A REAL PERSON. A PERSON CANNOT GRIEVE AN 'IT'. BUT A PERSON CAN GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. WE ARE COMMANDED NOT TO GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.

My story on talking to the Holy Spirit: In the early days of my time in the LC..we sang about the "Life Giving Spirit in us". But we chanted "O LORD JESUS". As far back as I could remember...even before my commitment to the Lord, I loved Jesus. But as I drifted away from the LORD, He became a distant memory. One day I heard a still small VOICE tell me "call on JESUS".

While I didn't know it was Satan who didn't want me to call on the NAME OF MY SAVIOR, I didn't want to go through a 'middleman' to get to ALMIGHTY GOD.

That VOICE that kept telling me to say 'JESUS' was GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT. He was leading me to Lord and King Jesus.

So... soon I get really hammered and saved in the LC during the 70s.. I learned I had a spirit, soul and body. That my spirit was different from my soul. Fine and dandy..but I did not know the difference...did any of us??

Anyway...we know the LC story 'O LORD JESUS' until it became an empty and meaningless mantra.

Fast forward after leaving the LC, I continued to pray with a pure heart.. Lord Jesus,__________. My prayer life was always directed to Lord Jesus. Not only because that is how I was taught to pray in the LC but because that STILL SMALL VOICE (Holy Spirit) told me to call on the NAME OF JESUS.

Fast forward even more.... I begin attending church... just to get the LC memory and junk out of my head. While they did pray in the Name of Jesus and now and then actually addressed "Lord Jesus", most of the time they addressed the Father and Holy Spirit.

It troubled me. I did not understand as I knew Jesus said no man can come to the Father but by Him. I also knew FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT was living in me. Now and then I would pray "Our Father Who are in Heaven..."
So I addressed Father God. But I never EVER addressed God the Holy Spirit.

I never spoke directly to Holy Spirit God. I began to learn more about the Function of The Holy Spirit.. GOD IS SPIRIT (HOLY SPIRIT) AND They that worship HIM (GOD) must WORSHIP HIM in S/spirit and Truth. Jesus is the Way, the TRUTH and the Life. He is also SPIRIT. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD THE FATHER. HE IS THE VOICE THAT LEADS US IN ALL TRUTH.

Anyway......... one evening, I began to speak to God as HOLY SPIRIT. I felt like I did when I first got saved and began talking to Jesus. "Holy Spirit' I said, "I know You are GOD but I have never addressed You. I don't know what I am supposed to say to You. I don't know YOU. I know the Lord Jesus and am acquainted with Father God but not YOU Holy Spirit." And thus my journey began. I feel complete or almost complete knowing the Trinity intimately. I am still working on getting to know Father GOD. I know that by knowing the Son and the Holy Spirit, I KNOW FATHER GOD. But I don't address Him directly as much. I should...and am working on getting to know Him more intimately. Just remember. Holy Spirit IS GOD...NOT an it.

I would remind you that 74 people went up onto the holy mountain, and saw God, and ate and drank, and God did not strike them. God invited them up there for lunch. They saw the pavement of sapphire. They saw the seven spirits burning before the throne.***

But only 72 made it down. Two of them made plans, and lit a fire. Bad move. Only seven flames are permitted to burn before the throne, not eight. The scriptural record then says "fire came out from before the throne and consumed them". Those seven flames are very jealous. Don't try to add another, of your own making. They are like the flaming swords in Genesis, turning each way; they will never let you get back to the Father. Only Jesus is qualified to walk among the seven golden lampstands. Everyone else will be consumed. Don't try it. Just watch Jesus. Watch Him carefully. He shows us the way.

Just watch Jesus. Never take your eyes off of Him.

LOVE YOUR COMMENTARY ARON!!! WOWSEE !! WOWSEE! THANK YOU!

LOVE YA!
Carol

[awareness]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Start Thanking God for loving you, for having mercy on you, for forgiving you. Thank Him for the beautiful day, for making you smile.

And thank Him for CountMeWorthy on LCD.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by aron

Do not tell the Holy Spirit what it should do, or how and when it should do it.

Originally Posted by CMW

HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT AN IT. HE IS A REAL PERSON.

We crack me up (which is a good thing, perchance), when we attribute human characteristics and notions to God and the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is more than a male, it, or person, like as we know and understand these terms, this side of the supernatural. Try as we may the Spirit is not going to make a warm spot on our sofa so we can talk to it like we do anybody else.

The Holy Spirit is so glorious that It's an It to far beyond our capability to understand any which it of It.

But I understand a knee-jerk reflex at calling It - the Spirit - an It. However the scripture is not so uptight about It ... Loosen up a little sis ...:

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

And all my "its" and "Its" are puns, I think.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by awareness

We crack me up (which is a good thing, perchance), when we attribute human characteristics and notions to God and the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is more than a male, it, or person, like as we know and understand these terms, this side of the supernatural. Try as we may the Spirit is not going to make a warm spot on our sofa so we can talk to it like we do anybody else.

The Holy Spirit is so glorious that It's an It to far beyond our capability to understand any which it of It.

But I understand a knee-jerk reflex at calling It - the Spirit - an It. However the scripture is not so uptight about It ... Loosen up a little sis ...:

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

And all my "its" and "Its" are puns, I think.

hee..hee that's our Harold for ya !!!

.... OK... so if we want to avoid all technicality....let's start with the fact Mr KJ didn't exactly translate the Words of God precisely.... so if you want to call the HS an it, sure..you can ... ME...I prefer not to address HIM as an it. But Christ IS OUR SOLID ROCK. A ROCK. A FORTRESS, A HIGH TOWER. ALL ITS. I actually stand corrected by golly!!


Still God is a PERSON. God is Spirit.. so HE/SHE is the Person I talk to and talks back to me.

So you noticed I wrote He/SHE huh? hee hee... Holy Spirit is most likely the Female part of God. Not to worry... I ain't getting all femma nazi on y'all fogies ! (most of us are on this forum are all fogies now...

Wisdom shouts in the street,
She lifts her voice in the square;
At the head of the noisy streets She cries out;
At the entrance of the gates in the city She utters Her sayings:
Proverbs 1:20:21

You know what's really funny ?? Sometimes the HOLY SPIRIT ACTUALLY 'YELLS' AT ME... to get my attention. If I ignore His still small Voice, She will SCREAM !!!!!!!! I ususally end up responding with: 'OH! ok Holy Spirit... Got it!'

Now... Mr Lee went made a big hoopla on the '7 fold intensified Spirit'...and i bet he didn't even know what/Who they were! If he did.. he didn't emphasize them and He didn't know HER. AND THE LSM sheeple follow suit.

Wisdom is one of the 7 spirits of God right?

Isaiah 11:2 describes the 7 Spirits of God:
“The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him —
the Spirit of Wisdom and of Understanding,
the Spirit of Counsel and of Power, the Spirit of Knowledge and of the Fear (Respect imho) of the LORD.”

This could possibly explain the seven Spirits of God:
(1) Spirit of the LORD,
(2) Spirit of Wisdom,
(3) Spirit of Understanding,
(4) Spirit of Counsel,
(5) Spirit of Power,
(6) Spirit of Knowledge,
(7) Spirit of the Fear of the Lord.

Love YA HAROLD !
Carol

[awareness]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Still God is a PERSON. God is Spirit.. so HE/SHE is the Person I talk to and talks back to me.

I don't think I could make it without my invisible Friend. He's my "Morning Revival," not written on paper. And He/She/It speaks to me. A few years ago, for example, He shouted "don't stick your fingers into the saw blade." But I was too slow to listen. That'll learn me to be quick to listen to Him.