Our Journey to Elden in Jan 1971

[Elden1971]

Originally Posted by Lisbon

I listened to James Barber many years ago say that anyone who was not absolute for the church he would drive them out. A big red flag went up for me but obviously it didn't work that well since I have stayed all this time. The talk about vision without much definition has always been a bug for me.

The thing about the education was such a mystery to me. As some have mentioned, Lee seemed to be against education for a while and then a complete reversal. I think he was just training us to follow him absolutely without thought. Remember the "young gallilians?" That was one crazy time. He turned every thing over to the young ones for about a week and quickly picked the reins back up. It was all just an act.

Lisbon

Lee encouraged the young people to do some really stupid stuff. "I'm a man I'm the center and the meaning of the universe" was being shouted at cars and pedestrians outside the Embassy Hotel in downtown LA. Getting on crowded elevators and telling everyone let's call on the name of the Lord "O LORD JESUS" INSURED that everyone would get off at the next floor and of course our white robes and gospel marches with drums and trumpets even disrupted the Hare Krishnas!

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

Lee encouraged the young people to do some really stupid stuff.

And when things blew up, EVERY SINGLE TIME Lee blamed somebody else. In the late 70s it was Max Rapoport and Sal Benoit, in the late 80s it was John Ingalls, Bill Mallon, et al. It was NEVER his fault. It's no wonder that most Local Churchers look at Lee as virtually infallible, the man never admitted a mistake....except maybe for that incredibly weak and lame deathbed type confession at the end.

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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

Lee encouraged the young people to do some really stupid stuff.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

And when things blew up, EVERY SINGLE TIME Lee blamed somebody else.

In this regard Lee was the sneakiest of all. During the "Young Galilean" movement of the mid-70's, Lee had his minions stirring up the young people all over the US. Hundreds of young saints up and relocated at their bidding for supposed "training." Elders had no say whatsoever concerning the sheep under their care. Forget about prayer and following the Lord. Then the whole things implodes, and then in the aftermath Lee says, "I never told anyone what to do."

Talk about a sneaky copout!