Is The Bible Inerrant?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Something like that, yes. One of my contentions is that "God allows freedom of will." It has been claimed many times to me that, surely God protected His word. But how could he do that and respect man's free will? So if scribes down thru the ages decided to meddle with the manuscripts, as evidence clearly shows, God would not and could not stop them from exercising their freedom of will and changing the scripture.


Yes, like the Southern Baptists used scripture to justify slavery.


I don't follow the first sentence. But to the second sentence I say, of course we don't need the Bible to worship God. We can go out in the woods, with no Bible at all, and worship God.


Ya done a pretty good job.

Abraham didn't have electricity either and got along just fine for over a 100 years without it. But why would you want to live without electricity now that we have it?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Abraham didn't have electricity either and got along just fine for over a 100 years without it. But why would you want to live without electricity now that we have it?

Good point Z. I learned that during the ice storm here in W. Ky, when everything died, even water and cell phones - a total blackout. The only thing that saved me was the fact that I heat with wood.

So I'm assuming that you are saying, the Bible is our "heating with wood?" It's our savior during these dark times.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Good point Z. I learned that during the ice storm here in W. Ky, when everything died, even water and cell phones - a total blackout. The only thing that saved me was the fact that I heat with wood.

So I'm assuming that you are saying, the Bible is our "heating with wood?" It's our savior during these dark times.

good try, my internet surfing friend, but using a wood fire to heat your house is not evidence of someone that prefers to live without electricity. Now if you tell me that you wash your clothes down by the stream by hand on a smooth stone, then we could begin the discussion there. Why do you prefer to do that rather than to let electricity do it for you?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

good try, my internet surfing friend, but using a wood fire to heat your house is not evidence of someone that prefers to live without electricity. Now if you tell me that you wash your clothes down by the stream by hand on a smooth stone, then we could begin the discussion there. Why do you prefer to do that rather than to let electricity do it for you?

Yer a fun guy bro Z. But isn't trying to live the Bible trying to go way back to the days without electricity, and living cultures from the Bronze age, and early Iron age? Is that what God is expecting of us? Is that your point? Should we give up the computers, microwaves, toaster ovens, wash machines and dryers, and the like ... just to live the Bible?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

But isn't trying to live the Bible trying to go way back to the days without electricity, and living cultures from the Bronze age, and early Iron age? Is that what God is expecting of us? Is that your point? Should we give up the computers, microwaves, toaster ovens, wash machines and dryers, and the like ... just to live the Bible?

You remind me of these two guys in Columbus back in my college days. They were walking up High Street in white robes and sandals, just begging someone to ask them about their getup. Now, mind you, I had just migrated to Columbus to take that city for the Lord's Recovery.

"We are Jesus people, and we don't wear leather." the dude said.

Harold, is that what you had in mind about "living the Bible?"

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You remind me of these two guys in Columbus back in my college days. They were walking up High Street in white robes and sandals, just begging someone to ask them about their getup. Now, mind you, I had just migrated to Columbus to take that city for the Lord's Recovery.

"We are Jesus people, and we don't wear leather." the dude said.

Harold, is that what you had in mind about "living the Bible?"

Yes bro Ohio. We should go back to wearing tunics and sandals, and growing long hair and beards. Then God would be more (sic) happy with us. Cuz we'd be living His holy book.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Yer a fun guy bro Z. But isn't trying to live the Bible trying to go way back to the days without electricity, and living cultures from the Bronze age, and early Iron age? Is that what God is expecting of us? Is that your point? Should we give up the computers, microwaves, toaster ovens, wash machines and dryers, and the like ... just to live the Bible?

Simple analogy, you say that Abraham could worship God without the Bible, therefore you can too. I agree, but ask why would you want to? Abraham also lived without electricity, and I know you can do that, but why?

Abraham also gave his son stories that were to be passed down. They were faithful to that, which is why we have the Bible.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Simple analogy, you say that Abraham could worship God without the Bible, therefore you can too. I agree, but ask why would you want to? Abraham also lived without electricity, and I know you can do that, but why?

Because I wouldn't have all this fun debating with you.

Abraham also gave his son stories that were to be passed down. They were faithful to that, which is why we have the Bible.

And tons of other writings too.

In reading the early Christian pseudepigrapha writings, it's obvious, that, Christians back in those days, sure loved to make up complete BS. But their stories of Jesus make for entertaining reading ... if you're a fan of science fiction, and fantastical mythologies.

And they are a lesson in how Christians back then would lie to support their beliefs. And credit their writings to Paul, or some other pillar of the faith, to gain more authority and readership.

Pretty funny stuff ... but deceptive.