LSM's Sacrament - the "Ground of the Local Church" NIGEL TOMES

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Sorry, but I don't know anybody who would "understand the Lord's word in the gospels" as you have here in your post.

Matt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thoufool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Regardless of how you understand this word it is hard to believe that many don't understand it literally. I virtually quoted the word verbatim. How could you argue that no one would understand it the way it is written?

Matt
25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Once again I virtually quoted this passage in Matt 25. Regardless of how you understand it it seems ridiculous that you cannot envision anyone taking this word at face value.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

ZNP,
Sorry, but your post is rather convoluted, and it doesn't begin to address what I stated in my post (I assume you were trying to address what I just wrote in the previous post.)

Your post said that "to deny the Lord who bought them" must refer to an essential item of the faith. The Lord's work on the cross which is the ground on which we stand when we appear before God is an essential item of the faith. To say that this is the sole ground on which we stand before God is an essential item of the faith. To say that the Lord broke down any middle wall of partition at the cross so that both Jews and Gentiles could be one is an essential item of the faith. To say that our stand before God or our blessing from God or our experience of God requires something in addition to this blood is to deny this essential item of the faith. This is what I said in my post which you dismissed because "it doesn't deny an essential item of the faith"? It is your post that presumed to address mine and didn't.

I added these quotes from the gospels and Acts because if you agree with Jesus that "If you have done it to the least of my brethren you have done it to Me" then you have to agree that everything WL did to the brethren he did to the Lord as well. I added the verse in Matt 5 because you might agree with the previous point but feel that "it is not that serious" as to rise to the level of a false teacher. Matt 5 makes it clear to me that the way we treat any saint can be as serious as hellfire and damnation.