*Lurkers Only*: Now's Your Chance

Non-monkey lurker here. Again, thanks for the forum. I just wish more "lurkers" would share. I need to hear their stories and I'm sure others do to.

I want to stress that I do not regret my lc experience in OHIO and hold no animosity toward the group or any individuals. In addition, many memories are positive and I don't have a lot of problems with their beliefs and practices. IMHO, they are mostly sincere believers who have their "way," as much as I found that way to be intolerable.

As I read the posts here, I must admit that the fine doctrinal points can be confusing (e.g., Triune God - who can ever really understand that!, but it's great that people are free to express themselves here and the different points of view are enlightening. I never felt freedom to express myself during my 5 years in the lc (seems to have been SO much longer!). I still recall what I call the "Brother Comma" syndrome. You know, "Brother, yadda yadda." Usually, "you're in your mind" or "you need to turn to your spirit," or some such ice water. So I just went along with the "flow," so to speak, to avoid confrontation. That got old and when I decided I couldn't take that or the controlling lifestyle, I decided I had to walk away.

Peace to all and a great sunny weekend!!! ... "non monkey" lurker

[aron]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just wish more "lurkers" would share. I need to hear their stories and I'm sure others do to.

Dear unregistered, if you want to hear some stories of brands plucked from the burning, go to the Bereans Apologetics Research Ministry website, and from there to the Old Forums section, and on the Nee, Lee & Church of Recovery forum, you can read the "Introductions and testimonies" thread. There are about 40 pages of stories.

Oh my! Thank you, Aron. Will definitely check it out. I guess I'm far from alone in this. Question for you, if you know. Is Titus Chu still "quarantined." I suspect he is and that the so-called BBs are still calling the shots at LSM. From my recollection, Titus always heard a different drummer and was not afraid to act accordingly. I guess I should use the abbreviation TC, huh? lol

Still loving the Lord Jesus Christ!!!...unregistered

Wow, there sure are a lot of testimonies on the Berean site. Some things have been clarified for me. Apparently, there had been a "flow" to go to the campuses in the late 1970s and recruit "good material." And it would appear that I was considered "good material." OK, so the fact that I am a human being and child of God with feelings doesn't matter. I am just a thing to be used. And the recruiter got the OK to spend a lot of time with me molding me into their image. And I wonder why I felt cold and alienated and yes, USED? I also recall exactly what prompted me to leave. It was a speaking by TC in a loud, forceful tone in a metting that if you intend to be a Sunday attender, then you might as well leave the recovery. When I became a Sunday attender, it was made VERY clear to me by numerous individuals that it would simply not be acceptable to continue in that manner. SO I WALKED AWAY. It's all coming back to me now. I don't understand, though, how I can "leave" the church when according to their teachings ALL believers in a locality belong to the local church in that locality. Some may appear to be overcomers, some just attend some meetings, and others may be backsliding, but all should be accepted as members. It's all so confusing and contradictory, to say the least! Isn't it amazing that I still think about this almost 30 years later? I doubt that I will ever be completely free of that period of my life for the rest of my days.

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't understand, though, how I can "leave" the church when according to their teachings ALL believers in a locality belong to the local church in that locality. Some may appear to be overcomers, some just attend some meetings, and others may be backsliding, but all should be accepted as members.

Excellent observation! If Lee and his followers actually practiced what they preached, they would never move to a city where there is already a Christian church and "take the ground". The ground has ALREADY BEEN TAKEN! For example, when the Local Church of Witness Lee sect moved to Anaheim (circa 1974?), they should not have "taken the ground" and haughtily declared themselves "THE Church in Anaheim". But we all know by now that the "ground" of the Local Church is nothing other than the person and work of Witness Lee. Heck, they don't even try to hide it anymore. Their "Bibles for America" campaign has less to do with spreading the Bible as much as spreading "the interpreted word"....the teachings of Witness Lee.

Originally Posted by aron

Dear unregistered, if you want to hear some stories of brands plucked from the burning, go to the Bereans Apologetics Research Ministry website, and from there to the Old Forums section, and on the Nee, Lee & Church of Recovery forum, you can read the "Introductions and testimonies" thread. There are about 40 pages of stories.

a link would help

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

a link would help

That link is down. I miss it. The best LC forum ever. Lot's of historical data lost. They have a new site, where Lee, Recovery, local church is listed as a cult.

Try :
https://thebereans.net/

[UntoHim]

Here is the link to the testimonies posted on our forum:
Introductions and Testimonies
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[Weighingin]

Originally Posted by awareness

That link is down. I miss it. The best LC forum ever. Lot's of historical data lost. They have a new site, where Lee, Recovery, local church is listed as a cult.

Try :
https://thebereans.net/

Awareness,

Do you know why the old Berean site is gone? I may have stumbled onto it when it was still active.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Non-monkey lurker here. Again, thanks for the forum. I just wish more "lurkers" would share. I need to hear their stories and I'm sure others do to.

I want to stress that I do not regret my lc experience in OHIO and hold no animosity toward the group or any individuals. In addition, many memories are positive and I don't have a lot of problems with their beliefs and practices. IMHO, they are mostly sincere believers who have their "way," as much as I found that way to be intolerable.

As I read the posts here, I must admit that the fine doctrinal points can be confusing (e.g., Triune God - who can ever really understand that!, but it's great that people are free to express themselves here and the different points of view are enlightening. I never felt freedom to express myself during my 5 years in the lc (seems to have been SO much longer!). I still recall what I call the "Brother Comma" syndrome. You know, "Brother, yadda yadda." Usually, "you're in your mind" or "you need to turn to your spirit," or some such ice water. So I just went along with the "flow," so to speak, to avoid confrontation. That got old and when I decided I couldn't take that or the controlling lifestyle, I decided I had to walk away.

Peace to all and a great sunny weekend!!! ... "non monkey" lurker

I like the word you used - Controlling lifestyle. Though I find many things to be good and spiritual and experiential, the way I was being controlled was too much for me.