Good Lee/Bad Lee: Can They Be Separated?

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

It's hard for me to believe that someone representing LSM would actually deflect all of my concerns about the character and personal behavior of their leader by quoting this verse above and pointing out that I too am a sinner.

Ohio, your argument always retreats to the same place regardless of the topic. The base note in this thread is posing a different question. So I see no need to debate your perpetual argument every time you retreat to it. I figure if you were interested you would have responded to my argument or with scripture to counter my argument. I would have been very interested in such a conversation with you but you passed it by. That is fine too.

And you are a sinner and so am I and so was Witness Lee. There is none righteous, no not one.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Ohio, your argument always retreats to the same place regardless of the topic. The base note in this thread is posing a different question. So I see no need to debate your perpetual argument every time you retreat to it.

Cass ... you've been on this forum for only a few days ... and you learned all that!

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Didn't WN write a book, The Character of God's Workman? Sounds to me like a good place to hold a "retreat."

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Cass ... you've been on this forum for only a few days ... and you learned all that!

Ohio,

I have been posting in this forum for a few days.

You make interesting arguments when you choose to. My observation is that you retreat to a fall back position, a moral argument, very quickly, and the same one at that.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Ohio,

I have been posting in this forum for a few days.

You make interesting arguments when you choose to. My observation is that you retreat to a fall back position, a moral argument, very quickly, and the same one at that.

This has been the top deception out of LSM: promoting WL as the Minister of the Age, the acting God, such a wonderful God-man whose character is impeccable and whose teachings consummate twenty centuries of orthodox Christian heritage.

Before you decide to completely discredit me, don't you think it is legitimate to consider The Character of God's Workman? It was so important to WN that he wrote numerous books about the subject. If we set WN aside for a moment, the New Testament is also filled with the subject. Paul wrote a whole book -- II Corinthians -- in response to those who questioned his character and teachings. Did you ever wonder why Apostle Paul never retreated to a corner when examined, passively claiming "all men have sinned ... there is none righteous ... yada yada "

The question is not whether the minister is sinless, but whether he is blameless and irreproachable, as the Bible commands.

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

This has been the top deception out of LSM: promoting WL as the Minister of the Age, the acting God, such a wonderful God-man whose character is impeccable and whose teachings consummate twenty centuries of orthodox Christian heritage.

Before you decide to completely discredit me, don't you think it is legitimate to consider The Character of God's Workman? It was so important to WN that he wrote numerous books about the subject. If we set WN aside for a moment, the New Testament is also filled with the subject. Paul wrote a whole book -- II Corinthians -- in response to those who questioned his character and teachings. Did you ever wonder why Apostle Paul never retreated to a corner when examined, passively claiming "all men have sinned ... there is none righteous ... yada yada yada in yiddish"

The question is not whether the minister is sinless, but whether he is blameless and irreproachable, as the Bible commands.

Discrediting you? No, not at all. You simply engage in one line of argument. Maybe that is your thing. That's fine too.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Ohio,

You make interesting arguments when you choose to. My observation is that you retreat to a fall back position, a moral argument, very quickly, and the same one at that.

Originally Posted by Cassidy

Discrediting you? No, not at all. You simply engage in one line of argument. Maybe that is your thing. That's fine too.

Dear Cassidy, what you call "retreating to one line of argument," I consider being focused on the "weightier" matters. I understand you would like to debate scriptural words and phrases such as "just as," as was done the other day. That is your retreat. Reminds me of the years of word games I endured with LSM. They have seasoned wordsmiths on staff who love to keep all the issues on some esoteric literary level.

To coin a phrase, "I'm a simple man, I have no use for words." LSM uses words to deceive, to coverup their actions, and to attack those who are eyewitnesses and "whistle-blowers" for their many improprieties. The Bible tells us plainly not to sue our brothers, but LSM will pen a dozen booklets to justify this practice, and eventually their entire membership agrees with them to make void the word of God in order to keep their traditions.

Perhaps other posters have the time and interest to engage you in endless doctrinal debates.