A Word of Love

[OBW]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

What this tells me Awareness is you still have a lot of LC blood in you. Lee came up with the phrase 'these ones'. Outside the LC life, people don't use that phrase.

OK. I'll be the first one to admit that I see remnants of LRC in everything. But saying "these ones"? If he was consistently saying those long overly adjectivized phrases like "I'm just enjoying the seven-fold intensified life-giving spirit in my spirit" then I would accuse him of still having LRC in his blood. But just because we use some nonspecific term that we actually picked up in the LRC doesn't equate to LRC blood.

Let's give the guy a little slack.

To me, the key is in whether it seems to give a different meaning to otherwise well-used and understood words.

Like "religion." If you simply use it like Lee and the LRC did, then there is still LRC blood in you. But if you say "these ones," or "youse," or "those guys," or "you-uns," or "them guys" it just means "you" or "they" or "them" and there is nothing LRC about it. Yes, it might have been picked up there, but someone who never heard of the LRC wouldn't bat an eye at it. It means what it means.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by OBW

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Let's give the guy a little slack. .

WHAT ?? ME give Awareness a little slack ??!! Are you kidding me !! No way Jose !!

Ok... just so you know OBW...Awareness & I can dish it out to each other..w/o getting too bent out of shape. He's a thorn on my side but not the only thorn in my side.. I was mostly ribbing him even though hearing those words "these ones" rubs me the wrong way. I luv that ole' lughead, pain in the behind that he is and he knows it.

If you simply use it like Lee and the LRC did, then there is still LRC blood in you.

Yeah...of course. Also..I am in daily communicato w/an LC sister. She is trying slowly...very s-l-o-w-l-y to break free from the LC. She always tells me about all 'these ones' as part of the LC lingo. It really plucks my last nerve OBW.

Anyway... I think you softened ole weird Harold's heart by your comments ! Good job !!

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

She always tells me about all 'these ones' as part of the LC lingo. It really plucks my last nerve OBW.

I've always thought of the phrase "these ones" as a reviling phrase. It's a way of referring to a person or person's whose name you don't want to utter. In other words someone you want to consider as unmentionable, you refer to in singular "that one" or in plural "these ones".
Personally I consider the phrase demeaning and disrespectful.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by Terry

I've always thought of the phrase "these ones" as a reviling phrase. It's a way of referring to a person or person's whose name you don't want to utter. In other words someone you want to consider as unmentionable, you refer to in singular "that one" or in plural "these ones".
Personally I consider the phrase demeaning and disrespectful.

THANK YOU Terry !!! You wrote exactly what I was trying to convey.

Another LC word I detest when referring to the people being reeled into the LC is"contact". --" All these ones are new contacts." --

Uh... I have a feeling we might start a new thread on LC phrases we like but mostly DISLIKE !

Oh..here's a funny totally off topic but still referring to phrases Christians use in evangelizing. My girl friend and I were having lunch a couple of days ago. Our waiter was a newlywed. He was on fire but a fire that reminded me of the fire a brand new Christian is on when they first give their lives wholeheartedly to the Lord. He was telling us how he and his wife get up every morning and read the Word together before starting their day. Cute kid.

At one point he was telling us how he was a fisher of men. I don't know if there was a subliminal message in how I responded but I replied "So are we !"

And btw, if anyone here would like to wish me a happy 57th B-day, by all means feel free to do so ! >

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

THANK YOU Terry !!! You wrote exactly what I was trying to and could not.

Another LC word I detest when referring to baby Christians is "contact". --" All these ones are new contacts." --

Uh... I have a feeling we might start a new thread on LC phrases we like but mostly DISLIKE !

Another "curse" was to say he is a "dear" brother.

When you hear that about a brother, then you know the brother is dead or blind or sinful or a mental case.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Another "curse" was to say he is a "dear" brother.

When you hear that about a brother, then you know the brother is dead or blind or sinful or a mental case.

You're RIGHT OHIO !! We'd never say the 'dear' brother/sister backslid!

Then there was the phrase "so & so is a 'goooood' brother/sister ! DUH ! But we'd never say "so & so is a Baaaaaad brother or sister. Let's see, they were either 'negative' or 'poisoned'. LOL !! Such idiotic phrases !

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Another "curse" was to say he is a "dear" brother.

What?
Aren't we all dear brothers and sisters?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Terry

What?
Aren't we all dear brothers and sisters?

The "good" ones are "precious" or "faithful" or "consecrated," but a brother is a problem to the LC, he becomes a "dear" brother -- not always, in every circumstance, but often enough.

Of course, many times this was in the context of TC' speaking. Another irony is his pattern of extolling outsiders, yet berating insiders.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by countmeworthy

Another LC word I detest when referring to the people being reeled into the LC is"contact". --" All these ones are new contacts." --

CMW, happy birthday! "Contact" or "new contact" sounds like a sales lead. I heard in OCS terminology it would be a "candidate". Those familiar with university greek clubs (faternities/sororities) it would be prospect.
Another term you might hear among lc circles would be "new ones". WOuld that mean new believers? Or new to the local church congregation? Why not refer to new ones as visitors?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Terry

CMW, happy birthday! "Contact" or "new contact" sounds like a sales lead. I heard in OCS terminology it would be a "candidate". Those familiar with university greek clubs (faternities/sororities) it would be prospect.
Another term you might hear among lc circles would be "new ones". WOuld that mean new believers? Or new to the local church congregation? Why not refer to new ones as visitors?

What if they have never visited? If your first contact with someone was preaching the gospel and since then they have appeared to be seeking and you have continued to fellowship, and you want to convey that concept in a testimony, that would be how I would understand "gospel contact". But you could also use colleague, coworker, student at school, friend, neighbor, etc. The key difference to me, is that by saying "gospel contact" you surely must have shared the gospel previously and this person must appear to be seeking.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

What if they have never visited? If your first contact with someone was preaching the gospel and since then they have appeared to be seeking and you have continued to fellowship, and you want to convey that concept in a testimony, that would be how I would understand "gospel contact".

Why can't you refer to the individual as a person instead of "a contact"? Question for you ZnPaaneah. What is the objective when preaching the gospel; to preach the gospel to bring the Lord to someone, or preaching the gospel with the intent of bringing them into a specifc church?
If the intent of preaching the gosepl is to bring someone into a specific church, I'd say there's ulterior motive.