A Healthy Revelation and LSM's Rebellion

Indiana · 05-11-2011, 09:31 AM

Receiving a healthy revelation of Christ and the church includes not only seeing the wonderful aspects of Christ’s Person and His monumental accomplishments; it also involves receiving all believers according to Christ’s own receiving of them for a practical expression of the church, which is His Body.

(In the Wake of the New Way)

"The Real Cause of Division

Brother Lee had warned the saints about division requesting that they "not criticize or oppose the army, since this would cause trouble and then division”. He said, like Gideon he would gain an army, pointing out that “those who followed Gideon to fight against the Philistines defeated them and rescued the entire nation of Israel". In other words, the "citizens" were to respect what the army was doing in the church and not cause a problem. This went on for months and then for years with the focus being on the army and the new way.

During this time, priceless saints who did not fit the configuration of new way practice and procedures were leaving continually from the "ground of oneness". They may have ended up eventually meeting with other Christians who were glad to accept them or they may have gone to the world, some plunging into a sinful and dissipated life. What a loss to the church in favor of seeking new ones who might configure well in the new church life!

In brother Lee's warning about causing division, the onus was placed on those dissenters to the new way. I have a serious question to ask. Who or what caused the damage and division during the Lord's new move?

Those who were standing on the ground of oneness as proper "citizens" in the church or the fighting army?

Saints, we should know assuredly that oneness with brother Lee and his ministry is not automatically oneness with the Body. These are two different matters. As significant and noble as it is to pursue oneness with brother Lee and his ministry, if this pursuit isn't balanced with a practical and genuine care for all the members, a wide gulf is created between the saints. This is division! "In the Body life the same care should be given to all the different members. A difference in care causes division" (1 Cor. 12:25 footnote, RV).

In the new way we were not eager to keep the oneness of the Spirit in the uniting bond of peace with every member (Eph. 4:3)."

This was due to LSM's rebellion to God's word in the New Testament and going about to establish their own exclusive brand of "oneness" in a sectarian utopia formed in willful negligence to God's word and the apostle Paul's example of keeping the unity among the saints in the churches.

TLFisher · 05-11-2011, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indiana

Saints, we should know assuredly that oneness with brother Lee and his ministry is not automatically oneness with the Body. These are two different matters. As significant and noble as it is to pursue oneness with brother Lee and his ministry, if this pursuit isn't balanced with a practical and genuine care for all the members, a wide gulf is created between the saints. This is division! "In the Body life the same care should be given to all the different members. A difference in care causes division" (1 Cor. 12:25 footnote, RV).

Well! If oneness with WItness Lee and his ministry is not automatic oneness with the Body, why was fellowship with churches cut off onces these churches ended affiliations with Living Stream?
In doing so a statement is being made. In order for local churches to have fellowship with one another, receiving Living Stream Ministry as their one publication is not optional.

Indiana · 05-11-2011, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry

Well! If oneness with WItness Lee and his ministry is not automatic oneness with the Body, why was fellowship with churches cut off onces these churches ended affiliations with Living Stream?
In doing so a statement is being made. In order for local churches to have fellowship with one another, receiving Living Stream Ministry as their one publication is not optional.

Very good point, Terry, in quote above.

- My 2008 post -
"Eight Decades Ago when Watchman Nee was a young, serious seeker of the
Lord and Bible truth he examined the Christian landscape of various
denominations with their Bible teachings, doctrines, and practices and
sought the Lord concerning the confusing situation. From his diligent study
of the Word he received revelation of many truths found in the Bible. One
was concerning how to receive other believers in fellowship......"

http://twoturmoils.com/NeeLeeEightDecades.pdf

05-11-2011, 09:31 AM	#1
Indiana Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 718	Re: A Healthy Revelation and LSM's Rebellion Receiving a healthy revelation of Christ and the church includes not only seeing the wonderful aspects of Christ’s Person and His monumental accomplishments; it also involves receiving all believers according to Christ’s own receiving of them for a practical expression of the church, which is His Body. (In the Wake of the New Way) "The Real Cause of Division Brother Lee had warned the saints about division requesting that they "not criticize or oppose the army, since this would cause trouble and then division”. He said, like Gideon he would gain an army, pointing out that “those who followed Gideon to fight against the Philistines defeated them and rescued the entire nation of Israel". In other words, the "citizens" were to respect what the army was doing in the church and not cause a problem. This went on for months and then for years with the focus being on the army and the new way. During this time, priceless saints who did not fit the configuration of new way practice and procedures were leaving continually from the "ground of oneness". They may have ended up eventually meeting with other Christians who were glad to accept them or they may have gone to the world, some plunging into a sinful and dissipated life. What a loss to the church in favor of seeking new ones who might configure well in the new church life! In brother Lee's warning about causing division, the onus was placed on those dissenters to the new way. I have a serious question to ask. Who or what caused the damage and division during the Lord's new move? Those who were standing on the ground of oneness as proper "citizens" in the church or the fighting army? Saints, we should know assuredly that oneness with brother Lee and his ministry is not automatically oneness with the Body. These are two different matters. As significant and noble as it is to pursue oneness with brother Lee and his ministry, if this pursuit isn't balanced with a practical and genuine care for all the members, a wide gulf is created between the saints. This is division! "In the Body life the same care should be given to all the different members. A difference in care causes division" (1 Cor. 12:25 footnote, RV). In the new way we were not eager to keep the oneness of the Spirit in the uniting bond of peace with every member (Eph. 4:3)." This was due to LSM's rebellion to God's word in the New Testament and going about to establish their own exclusive brand of "oneness" in a sectarian utopia formed in willful negligence to God's word and the apostle Paul's example of keeping the unity among the saints in the churches.

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