POLL: What is the Greatest Error of WL & LC?

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

So sorry, I missed that too! Thanks for bringing it up and I'll reorder the list to reflect that. Now we have an even twenty:

1. MOTA claim - minister of the age
2. Man becomes God teaching
3. The Ground of Locality - elitism
4. Disparaging Christianity
5. Suing other Christians
6. WL brand of Modalism
7. MorningStar RV manufacturing debacle
8. Hiding the truth - sweeping serious issues "under the rug"
9. Central control while preaching local autonomy
10. Practice of quarantining and/or shunning
11. Chanting mindlessly
12. Misogyny
13. Hypocrisy
14. Preaching a different gospel
15. Preaching a different Jesus
16. Unwillingness to listen & practice the Golden Rule
17. Funky yellow interlocking chairs
18. Teaching of God's governmental authority on the earth
19. The concept of "Recovery"
20. Killing critical thinking/self reflection*

The next step, I think, is to see if we can do an outline list of a handful of main errors that many of the others were a result of. (I'm wondering if those funky yellow interlocking chairs might actually be a main one . . . )

Main errors to me might be:
> MOTA (I see many things this probably produced)
> Ground of oneness teaching - elitism (many things here too)
> Teaching of God's governmental authority on the earth (could be under MOTA)
> Preaching different gospel & different Jesus? (this also might fall under MOTA)

21. Smear Campaigns
22. Absence of giving/practicing grace. Instead The Lords Recovery relies on items 4,5,& 10.
A follow up poll question (heretical teachings aside), how many ex-LCERS would still be meeting with a local church if it was not for:
Disparaging Christianity
Suing other Christians
Practice of quarantining and/or shunning
Smear Campaigns

[Nell]

Originally Posted by TLFisher

21. Smear Campaigns
22. Absence of giving/practicing grace. Instead The Lords Recovery relies on items 4,5,& 10.
A follow up poll question (heretical teachings aside), how many ex-LCERS would still be meeting with a local church if it was not for:
Disparaging Christianity
Suing other Christians
Practice of quarantining and/or shunning
Smear Campaigns

Spiritual pride.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by TLFisher

21. Smear Campaigns
22. Absence of giving/practicing grace. Instead The Lords Recovery relies on items 4,5,& 10.
A follow up poll question (heretical teachings aside), how many ex-LCERS would still be meeting with a local church if it was not for:
Disparaging Christianity
Suing other Christians
Practice of quarantining and/or shunning
Smear Campaigns

Interesting question. I know many left because of the control over the various localities and that they must adhere to, and be subservient to, the central ministry. To me, the other big one was the elitism (MOTA & "ground of oneness") - they were it and all others must see that.

And both those, as Nell pointed out, are prideful. I think many things then stemmed from that.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Interesting question. I know many left because of the control over the various localities and that they must adhere to, and be subservient to, the central ministry. To me, the other big one was the elitism (MOTA & "ground of oneness") - they were it and all others must see that.

And both those, as Nell pointed out, are prideful. I think many things then stemmed from that.

1 Corinthians 13:7
Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Maybe I'm all alone here, but I believe with love there is no spiritual pride, elitism, smear campaigns, shunning, practicing quarantines, suing Christians, disparaging Christianity.
Instead with love, there is humility and grace towards one another.
Had there been those traits, how many ex-lcers would still be meeting with a locality?