Who’s really causing the division?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

I wanted to add a testimony of a man, which I know is not from recovery. However, it’s from the man from PBCC or also know as a Plymouth Bretheren, which has quite of few ties to recovery. I wish a lot more people would do this kind of videos and appeals to these movements and scams, even if it’s just for the record.

Back before the Great Midwest Quarantine, I read a lot about the Brethren, past and present, focusing on their first split in the 1840's. After that I began for the first time to understand the Recovery.

Coming from Ohio, with the largest population of Amish, I have become familiar with them too. Eventually I was able to see numerous similarities between the Pharisees of old, those in Laodicea, the Amish, the Exclusive Brethren, and the Recovery. They are all on the same path. Some are just further along.

[Zezima]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Back before the Great Midwest Quarantine, I read a lot about the Brethren, past and present, focusing on their first split in the 1840's. After that I began for the first time to understand the Recovery.

Coming from Ohio, with the largest population of Amish, I have become familiar with them too. Eventually I was able to see numerous similarities between the Pharisees of old, those in Laodicea, the Amish, the Exclusive Brethren, and the Recovery. They are all on the same path. Some are just further along.

Can you elaborate on this? What path.

[Paul Vusik]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Back before the Great Midwest Quarantine, I read a lot about the Brethren, past and present, focusing on their first split in the 1840's. After that I began for the first time to understand the Recovery.

Coming from Ohio, with the largest population of Amish, I have become familiar with them too. Eventually I was able to see numerous similarities between the Pharisees of old, those in Laodicea, the Amish, the Exclusive Brethren, and the Recovery. They are all on the same path. Some are just further along.

I totally agree with you sir, if only people would spent time studying and understanding that this whole thing is not what they claim it is, and is just a splinter chapter of the broken system of man. I’ll attach a link from the same man that I posted above, were he somewhat explains the origins of these movements. He does go of the rails a few times (self admitting), so if one can get through the the video, you will understand the basic principles that existed then, and what is built in TLR.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLvj_FiXXOc

As noted in the video, and can be found elsewhere, the “system of man”, also know as the “MOTA” in TLR, is still exist today, and therefore being enforced according to the current leadership. After doing quite a bit of research and studying of the history, I can clearly state that the idea in itself, was not original, or some form of recovery. It was stolen from the Eastern Orthodox Church, which to this day practices and keeps the “ecumenical patriarch order”, since the split between them and catholic leaders around 1000 a.d., and has a lineage of their patriarchy going back to 200 a.d. They claim that they are the only church in existence, that has apostolic authority above all. There are other groups that came out of those fractures in 1800 Brethren's, like the New Apostolic Church, Mormons, even a lot of the Pentecost groups have origins to the 1800. So, it’s not really recovery, it’s more like parroting of the big brother syndrome, wrapped under the guise of separation and exclusiveness.

I grew up around the Eastern Orthodox Church when I was a kid, so I have some familiarity with what they teach.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Paul Vusik

I grew up around the Eastern Orthodox Church when I was a kid, so I have some familiarity with what they teach.

And I grew up in the Catholic Church. I view them both as empty shells, with little reality within, filled with traditions and liturgies and deceitful systems rather than Jesus Himself.

But on the positive side, they do provide continuity of truth for successive generations. They do guard the scripture and the truth about Jesus. Admittedly it does take a miracle to break thru their shell, and find the real Jesus. As a young kid I did believe the Bible was the word of God, and Jesus was the Son of God who died on the cross, yet my heart was dark and sinful without God. I was named after a Franciscan monk, yet never once heard the gospel from him or anyone else in that church.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Zezima

Can you elaborate on this? What path.

Pride, arrogance, elitism, exclusivism, legalism, use of fear and shaming to manipulate members, using excommunication / shunning / quarantine to expel non-compliant members and perceived rivals, building walls between insiders and outsiders, elevating man as some supposed vicar of Christ whether called the high priest, the pope, the Oracle, the MOTA, the bishop, etc.