My History And My Testimony Today

JorgeP · 04-16-2021, 01:13 PM

Greetings,

I have been reading the articles on this forum for some time and I thank God for having found it. After having some time investigating the craziness that exists in the external recovery (not the true recovery of the Lord), it is necessary for me to write my testimony. So, I am about to write my story up to my current situation. Sorry if there are mistakes in the translation, my native language is Spanish.

I come from the lowest parts of the world, I was a murderer, thief, idolater and fornicator. At the end of 2012, I reached a point where life had no meaning for me and in my heart came a feeling and I said: I need God. My mother's side of the family is Catholic for a few generations, so what I knew was going to mass. One night I decided to go to mass because I felt an urgent need for God. Then, while I was at mass standing in line to go to confession with the priest on duty, another priest was giving mass and at the moment of giving the word among all the things he said, God used this priest to preach this word: "From dust you are and to dust you shall return" (Gen. 3:19) When the priest said this, divine light entered me and I was impacted in my interior, and I said to myself: I am from the dust of the earth, I am nothing, I repent Lord". From that moment on, after doing the prayer and creeds, which include simple prayers for faith in Jesus, my appreciation for Jesus was compelling because in my heart I had the joy or gladness of knowing that Jesus was the Son of God and had died and resurrected on the third day. When it is my turn to go to confession to the other priest, the first thing I ask him is: Where is it written what that man said? And he answered me that it was in the book of Génesis.

After leaving Mass, I immediately went home and asked my mom if she had a Bible. She said yes and gave me a Bible, God Speaks Today version of the classic versions (very good translation). And I was urged in my heart because I said inside I have to seek God and I was captivated because now I had access to the Word of God. I began to read the Bible through Genesis, in a very compelling way and I was amazed that I could receive the Word of God and seek God and know God in the Bible. The divine light continued to shine on me and I kept searching until Exodus where in chapter 20 God enlightened me again and revealed to me that He was a jealous God and to have no other gods besides Him and not to make me an image of anything because He is a jealous God. When I see this, I said to myself: I can no longer attend mass because they do not obey this word and these commandments of God. So I stopped attending mass. At that time I was finishing a technical career at the university, and a cousin invited me to attend an evangelical Christian congregation. When I attend this congregation, and the brothers had a time of worship where they worshiped, praised and sang to the Lord, specifically to Jesus, that affected me positively and impacted me because it seemed precious to me that a group of people gathered to pray, sing, cry out, and worship Jesus. I spent some months there, and after that, God put in my way an old friend of mine in the university, who had already converted to Christ before me. When we met I told him "Jorge, I converted to Christ! Where are you meeting? (The Lord had already moved him to meet a group of brothers who were meeting in the houses) he answered me that with some brothers in Cabudare (a smaller city very close to the city where I lived) then in the conversation we agreed that I wanted to meet with him and I asked him to invite me to the congregation where he was attending.

A week later I went with the brother to the brothers' meeting one Sunday morning. When we arrived at the address, it turned out that the meeting was in the garage of a house. So we went into the meeting and when he entered I was amazed because there was a table brothers around the table and everyone had a Bible were talking and sharing the Word of God. The first impression I had and my inner speaking was: "This is where I am going to meet, they are looking for God in the Bible like me" And from then on I started to attend the meetings very diligently with the brethren by the houses. Then in one of the meetings, speaking the Word, the Spirit shone in me again because it was revealed to me that the Spirit was within me "Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit dwells in you? (1 Cor. 3:16). That word in the meeting that night turned my Christian life into something wonderful which was to be aware that the Spirit was within me (And that empowered my inner spiritual life in a radical way). So, I was newly converted and the Lord granted me the mercy to be saved in Thyatira, spend some time in Sardis, and move to the meetings with brethren who were seeking the Lord in a sincere way by the houses. By the end of 2012 (November) I was already immersed in the house meetings, and at the same time, seeking the Lord in His Word very, very eager to know Him in my personal experience. At the beginning of 2013 (January) seeing the brethren that I was newly converted, at that time they were enjoying and seeking the Lord in Genesis, and were studying salvation by water in Noah. Seeing that Noah and his family were saved from the world and God's judgment to the world, my conscience asked me to come out of the world and I had the need to be baptized. So, I had the blessing that before being baptized, one of the brothers invited me to get into seeking the Lord with the help of the 14 truths for new believers but learning to use the study material, that is to say that first I had to have contact with the Lord with the two or three verses that appeared to me first in the Bible reading and then write down my inspiration but from the verses enjoyed and not from the study material. So I spent three and a half months every day seeking the Lord in His Word and receiving light and illumination from Him.

In January of that year, we went. I still laughed and the brothers baptized me. I had the blessing from the Lord to be baptized being spiritually aware of what was happening at that moment, that my testimony of faith was given by having believed in Christ, I was being buried with Him and identifying with His death and resurrection, coming out of the world, uniting organically with Him, and entering the Body of Christ, because I was burning looking for the Lord in His basic divine truths and beginning to have basic experiences of them. After this, I continued to actively attend the meetings with the brothers, getting to know the brothers, congregating from house to house and they spent 6 or 7 years there, in the town of Cabudare and Barquisimeto where I lived. I want to explain something to you: The Lord gave me the mercy to find a place to meet with brothers who at that time were sincerely seeking Christ. When questions arose about our position as a congregation, the more advanced brothers maintained that we were a group of brothers who were allowing us to be internally recovered by the Lord and that we did not call ourselves by any name, even the name recovery. We were simply Christians who wanted to practice a corporate Christian life as it had been revealed to us in the Bible, especially as in Acts, that the church life was at home. Despite the fact that we were studying the Word with the help of life studies, the Lord kept us, through brothers who had spiritual discernment and the vision that the Lord had given them through contact with Him in His Word, from naming ourselves brothers of the recovery (what today is the outer recovery or denomination recovery) and we were simply learning to practice the local church life according to a revelation that we had received until now.

While we were learning to live the genuine church life in some way, the Lord was keeping us from having contact with leaders from other localities, as we began to have problems of human government and religious enforcement regarding the recovery study materials. We began to realize that things were not right in the Lord's recovery and that there was an outward recovery, a human institutional recovery, which was a human work and not a work of the Lord. Since then we had to face difficult situations with religious men representing the Christian recovery literature and they wanted to force us and govern us with their study materials and progressively we realized that in a parallel way there is the Lord's recovery, but also a work of false recovery, an outward, religious, and confused recovery. In 2018 some brothers emigrated to Colombia due to the situation in Venezuela, and I went to a new stage of experiences with Christ in a personal way, and I was also entering a new stage of experiences with other brothers and local churches in Colombia. In Colombia I had very good experiences in Christ, I was able to meet fraternal sisters and brothers with whom I was able to gathering in brotherly love for the houses. But I was also able to experience the problem of foreign and religious recovery in Colombia. The Lord was giving me more experiences to mature and develop spiritual discernment regarding our Christian life and the local church life. Due to persecution by some leaders, I had to move through some cities. The Lord was giving me the blessing to share the church life in various cities in Colombia and so that I could see His work in His believers, have wonderful experiences with fraternal sisters and brothers, but also the degradation of the church as a system called recovery.

The true recovery of the Lord is an interior work in us in our personal experience but can only be carried out corporately in brotherly love. After spending that time in Colombia, the Lord moved me to Spain, and I went to a new stage of experiences with Him and the Lord also brought me to see the condition of His move in Europe. It saddens me to see the unfortunate condition of the Lord's move in Spain and Germany. I have had very difficult and very hard experiences in Spain, in fact when I arrived in Spain, the leaders in Colombia wrote letters to the brothers of the local church in Madrid to prohibit me from meeting with them. So when I arrived in Spain I had a very difficult experience regarding the church life, starting with the rejection and continuing with the unfortunate condition of the lack of brotherly love, in fact I see the condition of the church in Laodicea here, a lot of theological knowledge but very poor in life, conduct in Christ, spiritual discernment. In Germany I had a similar experience, to the point that I was sharing with a brother the Word regarding Romans 13 and the discernment that the Lord had given me in a proper way, the brother took me out of his house and I was left without a place where to sleep. I also thank God that I was able to meet some fraternal brothers in Berlin, in the local church in Berlin, and that I was able to share with them in a fraternal way through house meetings. There is an urgent need for brotherly love in what they call the recovery, (Brotherly love thrives in the Lord's recovery, Philadelphia).

Due to these difficult situations, I returned to Madrid (My experience in Europe has been from the end of 2018 until today). And on a personal level I have had our successes and failures in my personal Christian life, and I recognize my lack of maturity in life, since Europe is a very difficult scenario, I would say that it is the hardest and final stage of the Lord's move in this era. To be honest, you have to live in the Spirit and walk in the Spirit to be in Spain and in Europe, the degradation is on another level, difficult to explain. Due to the vision and practice of the church life in the houses since I converted to Christ, I have been practically alone here, since there is not a fervent church life for the falls as I lived it in Venezuela and Colombia. The situation in Europe with respect to the Lord's recovery in Europe is sad and devastating, and it is not because the Lord cannot do something, it is not because of that, but rather that the religious man, the flesh of the man who wants to rule, the ambitions position in the local church, the enslaving hierarchy system in the local church, Nicolaitans, the obsession with promoting and selling ministry literature without proper balance, the much lack of brotherly love, spiritual sterility, and the obvious Laodicean condition in Spain and Germany has truly been a problem for the Lord to advance in Europe, the final stage of the Lord's move in this age. Currently I continue to live in Madrid, and until now I have not been able to form a vital group in brotherly love, which is why it has been difficult for me to persist until the end. While men are obsessed with virtual Zoom, I still need to meet face to face and physically with some brothers who are brotherly, and practice brotherly love. I keep to the end my vision and practice of physically meeting with two or three brothers face to face with the sole motive of moving forward to love Christ, live him and express our love towards him with two or three brothers in a vital group ( That I don't have until now) but I hope the Lord has mercy on me and provides me with a vital group to overcome like the times of Daniel and his friends.

04-16-2021, 01:13 PM	#1
JorgeP Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 21	My History And My Testimony Today Greetings, I have been reading the articles on this forum for some time and I thank God for having found it. After having some time investigating the craziness that exists in the external recovery (not the true recovery of the Lord), it is necessary for me to write my testimony. So, I am about to write my story up to my current situation. Sorry if there are mistakes in the translation, my native language is Spanish. I come from the lowest parts of the world, I was a murderer, thief, idolater and fornicator. At the end of 2012, I reached a point where life had no meaning for me and in my heart came a feeling and I said: I need God. My mother's side of the family is Catholic for a few generations, so what I knew was going to mass. One night I decided to go to mass because I felt an urgent need for God. Then, while I was at mass standing in line to go to confession with the priest on duty, another priest was giving mass and at the moment of giving the word among all the things he said, God used this priest to preach this word: "From dust you are and to dust you shall return" (Gen. 3:19) When the priest said this, divine light entered me and I was impacted in my interior, and I said to myself: I am from the dust of the earth, I am nothing, I repent Lord". From that moment on, after doing the prayer and creeds, which include simple prayers for faith in Jesus, my appreciation for Jesus was compelling because in my heart I had the joy or gladness of knowing that Jesus was the Son of God and had died and resurrected on the third day. When it is my turn to go to confession to the other priest, the first thing I ask him is: Where is it written what that man said? And he answered me that it was in the book of Génesis. After leaving Mass, I immediately went home and asked my mom if she had a Bible. She said yes and gave me a Bible, God Speaks Today version of the classic versions (very good translation). And I was urged in my heart because I said inside I have to seek God and I was captivated because now I had access to the Word of God. I began to read the Bible through Genesis, in a very compelling way and I was amazed that I could receive the Word of God and seek God and know God in the Bible. The divine light continued to shine on me and I kept searching until Exodus where in chapter 20 God enlightened me again and revealed to me that He was a jealous God and to have no other gods besides Him and not to make me an image of anything because He is a jealous God. When I see this, I said to myself: I can no longer attend mass because they do not obey this word and these commandments of God. So I stopped attending mass. At that time I was finishing a technical career at the university, and a cousin invited me to attend an evangelical Christian congregation. When I attend this congregation, and the brothers had a time of worship where they worshiped, praised and sang to the Lord, specifically to Jesus, that affected me positively and impacted me because it seemed precious to me that a group of people gathered to pray, sing, cry out, and worship Jesus. I spent some months there, and after that, God put in my way an old friend of mine in the university, who had already converted to Christ before me. When we met I told him "Jorge, I converted to Christ! Where are you meeting? (The Lord had already moved him to meet a group of brothers who were meeting in the houses) he answered me that with some brothers in Cabudare (a smaller city very close to the city where I lived) then in the conversation we agreed that I wanted to meet with him and I asked him to invite me to the congregation where he was attending. A week later I went with the brother to the brothers' meeting one Sunday morning. When we arrived at the address, it turned out that the meeting was in the garage of a house. So we went into the meeting and when he entered I was amazed because there was a table brothers around the table and everyone had a Bible were talking and sharing the Word of God. The first impression I had and my inner speaking was: "This is where I am going to meet, they are looking for God in the Bible like me" And from then on I started to attend the meetings very diligently with the brethren by the houses. Then in one of the meetings, speaking the Word, the Spirit shone in me again because it was revealed to me that the Spirit was within me "Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit dwells in you? (1 Cor. 3:16). That word in the meeting that night turned my Christian life into something wonderful which was to be aware that the Spirit was within me (And that empowered my inner spiritual life in a radical way). So, I was newly converted and the Lord granted me the mercy to be saved in Thyatira, spend some time in Sardis, and move to the meetings with brethren who were seeking the Lord in a sincere way by the houses. By the end of 2012 (November) I was already immersed in the house meetings, and at the same time, seeking the Lord in His Word very, very eager to know Him in my personal experience. At the beginning of 2013 (January) seeing the brethren that I was newly converted, at that time they were enjoying and seeking the Lord in Genesis, and were studying salvation by water in Noah. Seeing that Noah and his family were saved from the world and God's judgment to the world, my conscience asked me to come out of the world and I had the need to be baptized. So, I had the blessing that before being baptized, one of the brothers invited me to get into seeking the Lord with the help of the 14 truths for new believers but learning to use the study material, that is to say that first I had to have contact with the Lord with the two or three verses that appeared to me first in the Bible reading and then write down my inspiration but from the verses enjoyed and not from the study material. So I spent three and a half months every day seeking the Lord in His Word and receiving light and illumination from Him. In January of that year, we went. I still laughed and the brothers baptized me. I had the blessing from the Lord to be baptized being spiritually aware of what was happening at that moment, that my testimony of faith was given by having believed in Christ, I was being buried with Him and identifying with His death and resurrection, coming out of the world, uniting organically with Him, and entering the Body of Christ, because I was burning looking for the Lord in His basic divine truths and beginning to have basic experiences of them. After this, I continued to actively attend the meetings with the brothers, getting to know the brothers, congregating from house to house and they spent 6 or 7 years there, in the town of Cabudare and Barquisimeto where I lived. I want to explain something to you: The Lord gave me the mercy to find a place to meet with brothers who at that time were sincerely seeking Christ. When questions arose about our position as a congregation, the more advanced brothers maintained that we were a group of brothers who were allowing us to be internally recovered by the Lord and that we did not call ourselves by any name, even the name recovery. We were simply Christians who wanted to practice a corporate Christian life as it had been revealed to us in the Bible, especially as in Acts, that the church life was at home. Despite the fact that we were studying the Word with the help of life studies, the Lord kept us, through brothers who had spiritual discernment and the vision that the Lord had given them through contact with Him in His Word, from naming ourselves brothers of the recovery (what today is the outer recovery or denomination recovery) and we were simply learning to practice the local church life according to a revelation that we had received until now. While we were learning to live the genuine church life in some way, the Lord was keeping us from having contact with leaders from other localities, as we began to have problems of human government and religious enforcement regarding the recovery study materials. We began to realize that things were not right in the Lord's recovery and that there was an outward recovery, a human institutional recovery, which was a human work and not a work of the Lord. Since then we had to face difficult situations with religious men representing the Christian recovery literature and they wanted to force us and govern us with their study materials and progressively we realized that in a parallel way there is the Lord's recovery, but also a work of false recovery, an outward, religious, and confused recovery. In 2018 some brothers emigrated to Colombia due to the situation in Venezuela, and I went to a new stage of experiences with Christ in a personal way, and I was also entering a new stage of experiences with other brothers and local churches in Colombia. In Colombia I had very good experiences in Christ, I was able to meet fraternal sisters and brothers with whom I was able to gathering in brotherly love for the houses. But I was also able to experience the problem of foreign and religious recovery in Colombia. The Lord was giving me more experiences to mature and develop spiritual discernment regarding our Christian life and the local church life. Due to persecution by some leaders, I had to move through some cities. The Lord was giving me the blessing to share the church life in various cities in Colombia and so that I could see His work in His believers, have wonderful experiences with fraternal sisters and brothers, but also the degradation of the church as a system called recovery. The true recovery of the Lord is an interior work in us in our personal experience but can only be carried out corporately in brotherly love. After spending that time in Colombia, the Lord moved me to Spain, and I went to a new stage of experiences with Him and the Lord also brought me to see the condition of His move in Europe. It saddens me to see the unfortunate condition of the Lord's move in Spain and Germany. I have had very difficult and very hard experiences in Spain, in fact when I arrived in Spain, the leaders in Colombia wrote letters to the brothers of the local church in Madrid to prohibit me from meeting with them. So when I arrived in Spain I had a very difficult experience regarding the church life, starting with the rejection and continuing with the unfortunate condition of the lack of brotherly love, in fact I see the condition of the church in Laodicea here, a lot of theological knowledge but very poor in life, conduct in Christ, spiritual discernment. In Germany I had a similar experience, to the point that I was sharing with a brother the Word regarding Romans 13 and the discernment that the Lord had given me in a proper way, the brother took me out of his house and I was left without a place where to sleep. I also thank God that I was able to meet some fraternal brothers in Berlin, in the local church in Berlin, and that I was able to share with them in a fraternal way through house meetings. There is an urgent need for brotherly love in what they call the recovery, (Brotherly love thrives in the Lord's recovery, Philadelphia). Due to these difficult situations, I returned to Madrid (My experience in Europe has been from the end of 2018 until today). And on a personal level I have had our successes and failures in my personal Christian life, and I recognize my lack of maturity in life, since Europe is a very difficult scenario, I would say that it is the hardest and final stage of the Lord's move in this era. To be honest, you have to live in the Spirit and walk in the Spirit to be in Spain and in Europe, the degradation is on another level, difficult to explain. Due to the vision and practice of the church life in the houses since I converted to Christ, I have been practically alone here, since there is not a fervent church life for the falls as I lived it in Venezuela and Colombia. The situation in Europe with respect to the Lord's recovery in Europe is sad and devastating, and it is not because the Lord cannot do something, it is not because of that, but rather that the religious man, the flesh of the man who wants to rule, the ambitions position in the local church, the enslaving hierarchy system in the local church, Nicolaitans, the obsession with promoting and selling ministry literature without proper balance, the much lack of brotherly love, spiritual sterility, and the obvious Laodicean condition in Spain and Germany has truly been a problem for the Lord to advance in Europe, the final stage of the Lord's move in this age. Currently I continue to live in Madrid, and until now I have not been able to form a vital group in brotherly love, which is why it has been difficult for me to persist until the end. While men are obsessed with virtual Zoom, I still need to meet face to face and physically with some brothers who are brotherly, and practice brotherly love. I keep to the end my vision and practice of physically meeting with two or three brothers face to face with the sole motive of moving forward to love Christ, live him and express our love towards him with two or three brothers in a vital group ( That I don't have until now) but I hope the Lord has mercy on me and provides me with a vital group to overcome like the times of Daniel and his friends.