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Originally Posted by Ohio

Read Peter Schweizer's book "Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite." He is Presidemt of the Government Accountability Institute. His books are thorough, well-documented, and never disputed. Rather they just smeared as conspiracy theories.

Anyways, check out your facts. Biden bragged about getting the Ukrainian Prosecutor General fired, using a Billion of US guaranteed loans.

Total Quid Pro Joe. Impeach the right guy! Or should I say Impeach the bad guy?

You did not actually say anything about my point. I never said that Biden didn't get the guy fired. It was a point of US policy that required it. I guess you are still stuck on the ignorant notion that using the aid as leverage to enforce US policy at the direction of the president is the same as using aid as leverage to at least get the announcement of an investigation into a political rival. Didn't even require that there ever be an actual investigation. He just wanted the statement that one was to be undertaken as something to point back at during the next election.

So actual US policy v personal political advantage are the same? Only in the power-addled mind of Trump. Personal gain v requirement of US policy. One has the backing of the US government. Yes, it is a "this for that" requirement. But there is no "all quid pro quos are created equal" clause in the constitution. Where the government legitimately stipulates a requirement, then following through is required. Where an individual, even the president, stipulates a private requirement for his/her personal benefit, then it is a misuse of power and constitutes a request for a bribe.

That someone writes well researched and documented books does not make anything I said incorrect. Especially when there was nothing posted that even responded to what I said. It is a sad day when the level of discussion has stooped to appeals to authority that don't even address the issue. It doesn't matter if Biden bragged about actually carrying out the mandate he was legitimately given.

And I have watched that clip. It was blunt, factual, and rather low-key for the kind of "brag" that everyone mesmerized by Trump seems to read into it. But it really wouldn't matter if he had bragged in the outlandish way that Trump so often does since it would have been a legal — even required — action on his part. Unlike the abuse of power that Trump continues to brag was "perfect."