Today's Jerusalem for Christians

JJ · 07-29-2017, 02:45 PM

What is “Jerusalem” for today’s Christians?- Part 1
This discussion is for those already familiar with “The Lords Recovery” and Witness Lee’s (and “the Blended Brothers”) preaching and teaching that todays’ Christian equivalent of the Jews’ “Jerusalem”, and of “Mount Zion with the Temple of God” in particular, the God-ordained place that Christians should gather and worship God, and Lee’s view that it is in “the local churches”. This is “Part 1” because to keep it short, I’d like to reference each New Testament reference for an equivalent of Jerusalem for Christians one verse at a time. The first such reference is Jesus’ discussion with the Samaritan “woman at the well” in John 4:19-24 which reads in the New American Standard version as follows:
The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

From this we see that Jesus said today’s Jerusalem is “worshipping the Father in spirit and truth”.

I note there is no particular reference to “local churches, or “the ground of oneness” in this simple discussion. I also note that during this discussion the Lord Jesus reveals himself as the living water who abides and springs up to eternal life in those who drink Him. I also note the woman admitted her sinful condition, and went and testified to her city that Jesus is the promised Messiah. So, it seems that she got the message.

So, for our discussion then:

Can we use John 4 to support Lee’s claims?
Can we use John 4 to refute Lee’s claims?

07-29-2017, 02:45 PM	#1
JJ Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,006	Today's Jerusalem for Christians What is “Jerusalem” for today’s Christians?- Part 1 This discussion is for those already familiar with “The Lords Recovery” and Witness Lee’s (and “the Blended Brothers”) preaching and teaching that todays’ Christian equivalent of the Jews’ “Jerusalem”, and of “Mount Zion with the Temple of God” in particular, the God-ordained place that Christians should gather and worship God, and Lee’s view that it is in “the local churches”. This is “Part 1” because to keep it short, I’d like to reference each New Testament reference for an equivalent of Jerusalem for Christians one verse at a time. The first such reference is Jesus’ discussion with the Samaritan “woman at the well” in John 4:19-24 which reads in the New American Standard version as follows: The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” From this we see that Jesus said today’s Jerusalem is “worshipping the Father in spirit and truth”. I note there is no particular reference to “local churches, or “the ground of oneness” in this simple discussion. I also note that during this discussion the Lord Jesus reveals himself as the living water who abides and springs up to eternal life in those who drink Him. I also note the woman admitted her sinful condition, and went and testified to her city that Jesus is the promised Messiah. So, it seems that she got the message. So, for our discussion then: Can we use John 4 to support Lee’s claims? Can we use John 4 to refute Lee’s claims? __________________ And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14 NASB)