Theological Questions, please help (Darby, "na ling", God man)

ByHisGrace · 03-01-2016, 08:12 PM

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if someone could kindly point me to discussion groups that discuss the following things:

1. John Nelson Darby, I heard that he's a controversial figure in the christian community and is warned against by Charles Spurgeon (spiritual giant). I also understand that Witness Lee actually draws a lot of his inspiration from Darby, which is why Darby is the most recognized non-LC person amongst people in the LC.

2. An LC member mentioned John 7:39 to me. In the chinese RcV bible, Br. Lee uses the term "na ling" to describe the Holy Spirit. Apparently, Br Lee created a term to describe the Holy Spirit before and after the resurrection of Christ. In the english RcV, it says "the Spirit is not yet." In other translations, it reads "the Spirit has not yet been given." I find this to be one of many verses in the RcV that misleads readers so that Br Lee could easily introduce HIS theology.

3. I found out that Darby's translation of the bible is similar to the RcV. Do you know the credibility of the Darby Bible?

4. What exactly is "All Inclusive Christ" and other terms invented by Br Lee, is there a discussion board on the terms and what they mean and whether they make sense? How to make sense of them?

5. I watched a video on cults and a lot of them mentioned "God man". When I brought it up with an LC member, he said that they use it out of context, that's why they're cults. Is there a discussion board on what exactly "God man" means in the LC and whether this is acceptable? I know that God man technically means, God dispensing himself into us so that we have his life and when we have his life, we are essentially "God men". But, how can we put ourselves into the same class as God Himself? My understanding is that, we are ADOPTED children of God. We don't deserve salvation but because God is merciful, by His grace, we are saved. So the concept of God man seems a bit fishy to me.. then again, I do know of some verses used by cults like John 10:34-37 which reads, "Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, ' I have said you are "gods"'? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came - and Scripture cannot be set aside...." (NLT)

Thank you so much for your time and for reading this. Please feel free in answering some or ALL of these questions

I'm very interested in hearing about what everyone knows about this.

If you know anyone who might be able to understand my questions better or are interested in my questions, could you please refer me to him/her? Thank you and God bless!

03-01-2016, 08:12 PM	#1
ByHisGrace Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 7	Theological Questions, please help (Darby, "na ling", God man) Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could kindly point me to discussion groups that discuss the following things: 1. John Nelson Darby, I heard that he's a controversial figure in the christian community and is warned against by Charles Spurgeon (spiritual giant). I also understand that Witness Lee actually draws a lot of his inspiration from Darby, which is why Darby is the most recognized non-LC person amongst people in the LC. 2. An LC member mentioned John 7:39 to me. In the chinese RcV bible, Br. Lee uses the term "na ling" to describe the Holy Spirit. Apparently, Br Lee created a term to describe the Holy Spirit before and after the resurrection of Christ. In the english RcV, it says "the Spirit is not yet." In other translations, it reads "the Spirit has not yet been given." I find this to be one of many verses in the RcV that misleads readers so that Br Lee could easily introduce HIS theology. 3. I found out that Darby's translation of the bible is similar to the RcV. Do you know the credibility of the Darby Bible? 4. What exactly is "All Inclusive Christ" and other terms invented by Br Lee, is there a discussion board on the terms and what they mean and whether they make sense? How to make sense of them? 5. I watched a video on cults and a lot of them mentioned "God man". When I brought it up with an LC member, he said that they use it out of context, that's why they're cults. Is there a discussion board on what exactly "God man" means in the LC and whether this is acceptable? I know that God man technically means, God dispensing himself into us so that we have his life and when we have his life, we are essentially "God men". But, how can we put ourselves into the same class as God Himself? My understanding is that, we are ADOPTED children of God. We don't deserve salvation but because God is merciful, by His grace, we are saved. So the concept of God man seems a bit fishy to me.. then again, I do know of some verses used by cults like John 10:34-37 which reads, "Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, ' I have said you are "gods"'? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came - and Scripture cannot be set aside...." (NLT) Thank you so much for your time and for reading this. Please feel free in answering some or ALL of these questions I'm very interested in hearing about what everyone knows about this. If you know anyone who might be able to understand my questions better or are interested in my questions, could you please refer me to him/her? Thank you and God bless!