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Old 10-23-2014, 12:05 PM   #1
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Default The Ministry - What Is It?

This may not be the best title for the thread, but it is one of the topics that we are littering Olvin's testimony with.

And maybe Unto can move some of the more controversial posts to this location.

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My opening post is not directly on "the ministry," but rather on "life."

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Still I challenge all who post here to do this: take your biblical understanding; subtract all the revelation you have received from "the ministry" and consider what you are left with. Can you minister life with that?
My question is "what is this life that is being talked about?"

I am not talking about the life that we receive from Christ and that is continually infused by the Holy Spirit (when we turn ourselves for that infusing). What is this "life" that we are supposed to be ministering? Something besides the truth of Christ? Something that is disconnected from our daily life? Something that you have to feel?

My problem is not that there is no "life" but that what I see described in the Bible is all around me in the lives of many Christians who never heard a single word from "the ministry." Who never considered that there is a "ground" for the church. Who love God and their neighbor without any special teachings like "the ministry's" version of God's economy. Who understand obedience to Christ and know that it is important — so much so that a letter was written about it by James.

And the "life" that really matters would not be so dismissive of the words of scripture, such as those of that letter by James, or much of the Psalms. That "life" would not direct anyone to suggest that right and wrong are irrelevant, or "from the wrong tree." Right and wrong are not from the wrong tree. The only "tree" issue is which one you get your version of right and wrong from. And since Lee dismisses right and wrong from the landscape of importance, he is likely operating from "the wrong tree."

Lee is clearly not hungering and thirsting for righteousness. Just for dispensing. The righteousness will come without hungering and thirsting for it.

Or so Lee says.

But from the beginning it was not so.
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