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Apologetic discussions Apologetic Discussions Regarding the Teachings of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee |
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08-15-2020, 08:43 AM | #1 |
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"We Don't Care for Right and Wrong"
RIGHT AND WRONG...SAME TREE!?
Not caring for “right and wrong” doesn’t make right and wrong “go away.” You still have a conscience and a moral sense of right and wrong. This is can be a real problem for those who remain in the Local Church and are bothered by their conscience, but continue to meet there because of the threats of what could happen if you leave. According to Lee, the verses in Genesis 2 are the foundation for his “right and wrong” vs. “life” doctrine. There are no other scriptures that even remotely support this teaching, Are there? In fact, Gen. 2:9 and Gen. 2:17 are the only mentions of “tree of knowledge” in the entire Bible. Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. PRESCRIPTIVE V. DESCRIPTIVE Is this yet another example of “prescriptive vs. descriptive” scripture? Lee has prescribed that, because the knowledge of good and evil are on the same tree, we should avoid certain knowledge and specifically the knowledge of good and evil altogether. Since “right and wrong” were on the same tree, both are dismissed as something not to “care for.” So when “only caring for life,” what exactly do you “care for?” You care for what Lee, et al, tells you to care for. Additionally, there are the “Care For” police monitoring your every care, and when you care for something other than the ambiguous “life,” you’re busted. TRAIN UP A CHILD (Proverbs 22:6) Did you ever lie to a child? Even a child knows when he is being lied to. Children know. We know. The problem with Witness Lee’s teachings is that we already knew “good and evil.” Why wouldn’t we? Good and evil are on the same tree. That child that you lie to may NEVER stop asking questions…to catch you in your lie. Right and wrong is something every loving parent has taught their children from the time we first tried to stick tweezers into a power outlet. So Witness Lee tried to undo the training and common sense our parents instilled and enforced, and substitute a word that only fit his narrative because only he could define “life” to his satisfaction. We thought he had the goods, so like loyal little soldiers, we tried to fall in line and salute. Is it even possible to “unteach” the values of knowing (and doing) right from wrong? “Following Lee” became almost like a drug to dull your conscience. THE GOOD OLD DAYS In the “good old days” when I first started meeting with the church, the ministry of the word was amazing. Two brothers stood side by side and shared. When one finished, the other picked up the next sentence and continued for … another hour. When the two messages ended, there were testimonies for another hour. When someone stood to dismiss the meeting (so the childrens workers would be relieved of duty) everyone groaned…already??? Looking at your watch, you had been sitting for almost 3 hours and it seemed like 30 minutes. Amazing. Truth was there and truth set us free! So what happened? Truth left the building. Truth didn’t leave me, though. When apostasy set in, it was too late. I already knew truth, right and wrong, good and evil. My parents began to teach me right from wrong, because they had the same training which they passed down to us kids. When I heard the “different teachings”, I remembered those 3 hour meetings…sitting on the edge of my seat… . This is what empowered me to leave…the knowledge of good and evil…right and wrong. The very thing that caused me to stay in the early days, helped me to leave when the time came. TRUTH Truth is a powerful thing. Truth about right and wrong, good and evil, is who God is. James 4:17 So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin. Of course, we know that Lee tore the book of James out of his Bible. Nell |
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