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The Four Horses - Revelation 6
Revelation 6:1-8 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. 3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. According to Witness Lee, the opening of the seven seals occurred immediately after Christ ascended to the heavens. That is immediately after his crucifixion, his death, and his resurrection. https://www.ministrybooks.org/books.cfm?cid=2BF4 You need to search for the Life Study of Revelation. Lee also offers the teaching that the four horses comprise the totality of world history. Historically, it is obviously accurate that war, famine and death have existed throughout history. The preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ didn’t begin immediately after his crucifixion, resurrection and ascension to the heavens. Arguably the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ began much earlier, as far back as Genesis 3:15 (15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.). in the Old Testament. That is, much earlier than “immediately after” his crucifixion, his death, and his resurrection. “The first four seals comprise four horses with their riders in a four horse race,” with the second horse, the red horse, being war (v.4) the third horse, the black horse, famine (v5); the fourth horse, the pale horse, death (v. 8); and the first horse, the white horse, is the gospel. Lee noting that “some” believe the white horse is Christ or Antichrist. Because the second, third and fourth horses represent personifications of war, famine and death, Lee concludes that the first horse must also be a personification of the gospel and can be neither Christ or the Antichrist. What do you think? It seems to me that the gospel of Jesus Christ cannot, should not, be separated from the person of Jesus Christ. 1. My question is, just because war, famine and death have existed throughout history, is that alone confirmation that the seven seals have been opened throughout history? 2. Does the white horse conclusively represent the gospel as Lee believed? 3. Lee gave these messages on the Revelation…not sure but I’ll guess…25-30 years ago. Would he come to these same conclusions today if he were alive and could see what’s happening in the world today? 4.What other options are there for the white horse? 5. Where are we now in the "end times" timeline? Anyone? Nell |
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