YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-2QoHtRerA

wow, I can relate almost everything on this! How can you know so much like the marriage issue since you left at age of 23?

Yes, I went back for a while. But I've observed the group for years and followed this board, which has been a great help. I prefer some anonymity, so I'll comment through YouTube. Thanks for listening!

[Gubei]

Originally Posted by Cal

Yes, I went back for a while. But I've observed the group for years and followed this board, which has been a great help. I prefer some anonymity, so I'll comment through YouTube. Thanks for listening!

Thanks. I've subscribed to your channel.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Cal

Yes, I went back for a while. But I've observed the group for years and followed this board, which has been a great help. I prefer some anonymity, so I'll comment through YouTube. Thanks for listening!

Yeah, I think you may go back to observe the situation in LC for a while and let us know its advance. I thought then you were Texas street preacher because your voice sounds like him.

[Raptor]

Thanks for making those videos, keep them coming.....

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Yeah, I think you may go back to observe the situation in LC for a while and let us know its advance. I thought then you were Texas street preacher because your voice sounds like him.

That's funny, because my voice is slightly altered on the audios.

No, I'm not him. I got the idea for starting my channel from seeing him, but I do things in a very different style.

Originally Posted by Raptor

Thanks for making those videos, keep them coming.....

The ones I put out form the basis of my argument about the group. I am praying about how to go forward. Thanks for your support!

[Cal]

Episode #7 up, which examines the question of whether the "the Lord's Recovery" is a cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX-3_llIG6o

[Cal]

Episode #8 is up, examining the Christian Research Institute's (CRI) flawed defense of the "The Lord's Recovery."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2l4B1-NnK4

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Yeah, I think you may go back to observe the situation in LC for a while and let us know its advance. I thought then you were Texas street preacher because your voice sounds like him.

Naw this is very different. I can sense this brother is speaking truth in love in these youtube videos. I listened to all of them in a few days and it cheered my heart. When I saw the videos of Texas street preacher, it is hardly accurate and he is acting like a bully, and I can't sense any anointing. If The Lord ever spoke through a member, I am certain it wouldn't be like this. (Yes we can recognize his voice). He is merely just judging another and will probably fall into judgment himself. These youtube videos by "cal", as I see it, is spiritual discernment. The only thing I wonder about is who he is, and why he remains incognito, because I would like to send him a few questions any way to contact you brother "cal"?

I've been in fellowship with people meeting as the church and reading "the ministry" for 15 years, but the Lord has spoken to me and warned me about being proud, exclusive and falling into empty rituals. Sadly, (this is my personal belief I guess) I think many churches in the Lords recovery, even if the Lord came back, many of these brothers and sisters would still have the Lords table in their traditional way without realizing He came back. I hope I am wrong! The only pathway I see now it to practice to have brotherly love to ALL Christians, not insisting on anything, and personally living in the condition of Philadelphia. When these videos of "Cal" came out, it was like everything the Lord had spoken to me was articulated and it was great joy to me. I now meet with a few other Christian groups, but that isn't easy as well. In the Lords recovery I felt it was one extreme, reading ministry too much, but in the Christian groups i found another extreme, meeting where it all becomes a social arena instead of getting into the Word together. Being a Christians isn't too easy, I confess 😳 anyway thank you so much for the videos and please keep them coming. I hope also many that are currently in the Lords Recovery can listen to them and challenge themselves and search their heart in light of these videos. As soon as a group thinks it is above others there should be a red flag.
Sincerely from a seeking brother in Europe

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by SeekeroftheFullTruth

The only thing I wonder about is who he is, and why he remains incognito, because I would like to send him a few questions any way to contact you brother "Cal"?

SeekeroftheFullTruth, Thanks for your post! I have a wonderful solution to your problem. Simply send an Email to LocalChurchDiscussions@Gmail.Com requesting membership for the forum (I have reserved "SeekeroftheFullTruth" for you to have for your UserName). We will shoot you back a temporary password and then you can communicate with Cal and others on the open forum, or through the Private Messaging system.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Your brother who is unto Him
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[Cal]

Hi SeekeroftheFullTruth,

It makes me happy to know you've gotten some good from my videos.

As for my identity, I've always worked under a pseudonym on this forum, as most of us have, and it just seemed natural to continue that way. I prefer to protect my privacy as well as my family and to keep my options open. I've noticed though with Facebook now, many are speaking out about the LR under their real names, which is great. It's a new generation!

But UntoHim is right, if you get an LCD login, we can communicate with the personal messaging system here.

Thanks again for your kind words!

Just a note that I am going to try to take some time off and figure out which direction to take things going forward.

Blessings,

Cal

A new video posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfOv9-6yE-U

Episode #3 on Abuse of Authority has been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9scXlTXlOI&t=20s

Episode #4 on the Fallacy of the Local Ground has been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Oe6ILfi44

[Cal]

Video #5 up. More opinions on the local ground. Thanks for listening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xb-EZ0aRJU

[Cal]

Episode #6 on the Fallacy of the Minister of the Age now posted.
I wanted to get these foundational videos up quickly. Now I'll take a break for a while. Thanks for listening!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFwdYsxg4pY

[Curious]

Hello Cal,
I want to respond to your alternative proposition of the inner workings of the trinity. E35

I appreciate all the work and time you are putting into your youtube channel. What you have presented on the trinity certainly does address what lacks in WL’s assessment of who the trinity is. Weather true or not I don’t have enough insight to tell, but it seems far safer than The LC teaching on the trinity. I share your concerns about the damage it, along with much else that comes with the package of the LC, does to the people ensnared in it. I think it takes courage as well as work and time to deliver the messages on your channel.

I find Cal’s posts in themselves demonstrate what the local church lacks….rational, logical, sensible thought processing with a good dose of common sense. Its hard to argue against those and sound plausible, really.

We all rely on, and trust in, a legal system that bases its evaluations on the same principles. Where would our justice system be without them? And therefore our society? Stepping away from those principles is dangerous, in my view. It leads to superstition, and superstition is based in fear. It reverts to an uncivilised way of functioning, actually. A way that western civilisation broke out of as it developed the rule of law, human rights, scientific methodology, democracy etc. all these things are only possible with rational and logical thinking, something WL clearly had no appreciation or understanding of in its history or significance. He didn’t really understand the west, it’s clear. And he clashed against it when he turned against his American followers.

I hope I haven’t rambled.

Cal’s posts demonstrate good sound thinking as well as good conclusions. It’s clear he has given it all deep thought over a long period of time. It’s also noteworthy to me that he is not showing partiality. E28, ‘racism or sexism’ is one example amongst others, where he holds back and is not interested in blanket accusations beyond what he is certain of from his experience. (Those who have such experience can voice those grievances on this forum, and elsewhere, without clashing with him). This is what integrity does. An important detail to be respectful of too.

I hope he keeps going for as long as he feels lead to. I’ll be following them!

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Curious

I hope he keeps going for as long as he feels lead to. I’ll be following them!

I very much appreciate the support. And what you say I hope is true of me.

As 'least' said, I'm just one small potato. I don't have all the answers, I just have my view and feel led to make these videos at this time. I have no idea how long I will feel led to continue, but I hope people know that I'm not trying to make a name for myself or anything like that. I'm just trying to use the gifts and skills the Lord has given me for the good of his kingdom.

Not everything I say is going to agree with everyone. Realize that I'm not trying to define what should be true for everyone, but rather simply my own beliefs and views.

I'm not anything of any age.

[Curious]

As an outsider, its pretty obvious:
'God's economy' implies He's a businessman. A business man is trading, selling a product (the ministry), the agenda is to promote the success of His business. Persons are merely commodities in this grand business. In every business, a commodity is only of value in so far as it's earning its way to expand your business, and drawing in the customers. Otherwise it's expendable. A 'product' has no intrinsic value in itself beyond this.

When you think in terms of 'Gods economy', the language of WL gives it all away. everything Cal is saying.

I never heard the concept of God as 'Father' mentioned at any time by LCers I knew and fellowshipped with. This was an early question mark for me. The sense of the sanctity of human life is therefore not indicated, a clear aspect of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions of the world.... except not if you are in the LC, sadly.

(it occurs to me that maybe WL was thinking about his own business ambitions more than we realise and this spilt over into his theology!)

Jesus died on the cross (apparently) because he was busy 'processing' himself, He was on his own mission. That takes the focus away from being motivated by love or the value He places in you and me. Its as if the core is gone, WL removed it.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Curious

As an outsider, its pretty obvious:
'God's economy' implies He's a businessman. A business man is trading, selling a product (the ministry), the agenda is to promote the success of His business. Persons are merely commodities in this grand business. In every business, a commodity is only of value in so far as it's earning its way to expand your business, and drawing in the customers. Otherwise it's expendable. A 'product' has no intrinsic value in itself beyond this.

When you think in terms of 'Gods economy', the language of WL gives it all away. everything Cal is saying.

I never heard the concept of God as 'Father' mentioned at any time by LCers I knew and fellowshipped with. This was an early question mark for me. The sense of the sanctity of human life is therefore not indicated, a clear aspect of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions of the world.... except not if you are in the LC, sadly.

(it occurs to me that maybe WL was thinking about his own business ambitions more than we realise and this spilt over into his theology!)

Jesus died on the cross (apparently) because he was busy 'processing' himself, He was on his own mission. That takes the focus away from being motivated by love or the value He places in you and me. Its as if the core is gone, WL removed it.

Very well said. The LR is all about "accomplishing God's purpose," and people are just means to that end, and thus expendable in the hands of the "co-workers" in that effort. People are valuable only to the extent they further the cause, otherwise they are just a problem.

But such an attitude make God's love hollow. In truth, the only thing that could have motivated Jesus to suffer and die on the cross the way he did was pure love--love both for the Father and for us. He endured it all for us, each one of us. That's love.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Curious

When you think in terms of 'Gods economy', the language of WL gives it all away. everything Cal is saying.

Sorry if I'm in left field on this thread. I shy away from social media, even youTube channels. Sorry Cal.

But Lee's economy was a failure over and over again. Well until he realized he could be successful pushing his books on the saints. That's why he kept Philip.

It reminds me of AmWay, that realized the real money was in selling the training tapes. LSM is still an ongoing vital business ... doing the same thing.

It should be noted, that it's not the church I pictured that Jesus promised to build. In fact, it's not a church by any definition ... but it's the backbone of Lee's LC movement ; "Gods'" Economy.

[Cal]

E37 - A Broader Perspective

Pulling back to view the experience of "the Lord's Recovery" from a less religious, more general view, and proposing a fundamental principle for going forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRSFDIpkLM

[Trapped]

In a couple episodes you have mentioned Ron putting down listening to the conscience. Do you know where/when that was said and the context? Is there somewhere that could be listened to or anyone who has an excerpt of that?

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Trapped

In a couple episodes you have mentioned Ron putting down listening to the conscience. Do you know where/when that was said and the context? Is there somewhere that could be listened to or anyone who has an excerpt of that?

It's in Episode 32. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PhHvU3v3hY

I don't know the whole context, but his point is clear. He is saying that John Ingalls was wrong for having a conscience problem with the way Philip Lee was handled. He is saying that "life" supersedes the conscience. This is not a healthy teaching.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Curious

As an outsider, its pretty obvious:
'God's economy' implies He's a businessman. A business man is trading, selling a product (the ministry), the agenda is to promote the success of His business. Persons are merely commodities in this grand business. In every business, a commodity is only of value in so far as it's earning its way to expand your business, and drawing in the customers. Otherwise it's expendable. A 'product' has no intrinsic value in itself beyond this.

When you think in terms of 'Gods economy', the language of WL gives it all away. everything Cal is saying.

I never heard the concept of God as 'Father' mentioned at any time by LCers I knew and fellowshipped with. This was an early question mark for me. The sense of the sanctity of human life is therefore not indicated, a clear aspect of Christianity that sets it apart from other religions of the world.... except not if you are in the LC, sadly.

(it occurs to me that maybe WL was thinking about his own business ambitions more than we realise and this spilt over into his theology!)

Jesus died on the cross (apparently) because he was busy 'processing' himself, He was on his own mission. That takes the focus away from being motivated by love or the value He places in you and me. Its as if the core is gone, WL removed it.

You make some really good points here! I must admit I never saw "God's Economy" as such a central thing as some did. Even now, it is occasionally brought up here, but I don't think it has quite the same meaning as it did coming from WL. I got a lot out of the "Recovery" but at the same time it wasn't as much about the Person of Christ or our Father, as it was about the machinery that was God's economy. In other words, it was all about the purpose - God eternal has a purpose and He will get it regardless of you . . . and if you get in His way ----> SQUISH! You'll be flattened under the galactic steamroller.

After leaving the LC and drying out for several years, and coming to a place that didn't have that kind of spiritual baggage, I saw it was love that was His main motivation. As WL said near the end of his life, love was missing from the ministry, and I believe that to be quite true. Yes, God has a purpose, but the reason for His purpose is love . . . and the way He executes it is also all in love -- for us! We are brought into the love relationship between our Father and His Son!

A couple years ago we were going through some passages about His administration in His house (which can be called his economy). I saw that the order and the authority in the house was really for one key thing - so that everyone living in the house gets what they need - food, shelter, care, love and other attention. This is why there is an order . . . an administration - so that all God's riches can be loving dispense properly to all in need. It's the same in a human household - there needs to be some basic authority and headship. Why? So everyone can partake freely of all that the household has to offer. It's not "The economy stupid (as Clinton famously said);" it's love.

[jesusislord]

Can you explain in detail how the LC downplay relationship? I know as a member you can have no friends but hanging around with their members. Is that what you mean?

[Cal]

Originally Posted by jesusislord

Can you explain in detail how the LC downplay relationship? I know as a member you can have no friends but hanging around with their members. Is that what you mean?

The LR in general discourages close relationships with anyone not in your immediate family. (I've even heard them teach "don't love your wife too much.") They discourage friendships, both with people inside and outside the LR. Witness Lee often spoke about not being "buddy-buddy" with anyone. These types of relationships were considered "soulish."

The LR also has a strange view of our relationship with God, they talk more about "experiencing" Christ (in a rather impersonal way) than getting to know Him as a person.

And the LR has an extreme view of our relationships with ourselves. They believe in "denying" the self to the point of low self esteem.

All these approaches work together for the LR to isolate you emotionally and take control of your emotional life in order to become the controlling emotional factor in your life. According to them, your sole source of enjoyment should be your experience of God, which of course they define. This furthers their control.

All these teaching are unhealthy.

[jesusislord]

Originally Posted by Cal

The LR in general discourages close relationships with anyone not in your immediate family. (I've even heard them teach "don't love your wife too much.") They discourage friendships, both with people inside and outside the LR. Witness Lee often spoke about not being "buddy-buddy" with anyone. These types of relationships were considered "soulish."

The LR also has a strange view of our relationship with God, they talk more about "experiencing" Christ (in a rather impersonal way) than getting to know Him as a person.

And the LR has an extreme view of our relationships with ourselves. They believe in "denying" the self to the point of low self esteem.

All these approaches work together for the LR to isolate you emotionally and take control of your emotional life in order to become the controlling emotional factor in your life. According to them, your sole source of enjoyment should be your experience of God, which of course they define. This furthers their control.

All these teaching are unhealthy.

for them getting married without natural infection is fine, they said it's for the Lord. God obviously created us with the ability to favor and able to attract different gender, why such this weird group of people even exist?!

[Cal]

E40 - A Broader Perspective, Concluding Thoughts

Wrapping up for now the investigation of "the Lord's Recovery" from a more general, sociological standpoint. Finishing up with a word of support and encouragement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4q_3RTt444

[Cal]

E41 - If You Grew Up in "The Lord's Recovery"

Examining the particular needs of people who grew up in controlling groups, that growing up in a controlling group is not that uncommon, and that a full life post-group is possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1732nUnkyo

[Curious]

An old-fashioned saying that I think sums up the relationship between loving others, trust, and one's having ownership of one's own choices and responsibilities in life goes like this:

'Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe!'

I say that over in my mind whenever something pops up around me that could compromise one of those 3 values. I think it harmonises well with episode 64.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Curious

An old-fashioned saying that I think sums up the relationship between loving others, trust, and one's having ownership of one's own choices and responsibilities in life goes like this:

'Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe!'

I say that over in my mind whenever something pops up around me that could compromise one of those 3 values. I think it harmonises well with episode 64.

Love it. Thanks, Curious!

[Cal]

Hey Everybody,

I wanted to thank everyone for their prayers and support. MyOpinionsFree would have never been possible without all I gained from Local Church Discussions and all my dear friends (and adversaries) here. It's been an amazing ride seeing our wonderful God step in and be our Defender and Vindicator. Please keep praying that the lies that blind our dear brothers and sisters in the LR will fall away and that the Lord's Church will be united in Him, and Him alone. You guys are the best! Take care.

Cal

[Cal]

E65- Examining Witness Lee's "God's Eternal Purpose and Economy" - "The Lord's Recovery" Movement

Taking a look at what's right and wrong about Witness Lee's view of God's purpose and economy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2EfhoU6uQ

[Cal]

E66 - Some Humble Advice to Ron Kangas and the Other Co-workers in the LR in North America

Some sincere tongue-in-cheek advice to the continuation of the one true ministry of the age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr1eYg2jGDo

[Curious]

Episode 74, I just want to say, excellent! So clear-thinking and wise to seperate the good out, and name it. Amongst this list are the things that I liked and was drawn to, the functioning of the believers to share together that makes things interactive and alive, rather than always sitting and listening to a speaker only. And pray-reading within the context Cal outlines has really helped me absorb mentally and spiritually from what I read, a practise I have taken on with me too.

This episode is excellent in helping to redeem the good from this movement, cutting through the confusion, which is one of the biggest issues for all of us impacted by the LRM. I predict it to be of immense benefit to those leaving and trying to sort it all out. Its really a true 'balancing word'!

I am looking forward to next episode!

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Curious

Episode 74, I just want to say, excellent!

Thank you, Curious! I appreciate your prayers asking the Lord to give me wisdom in what I speak. It's easy to be a smart-aleck. In fact... it comes naturally to me!

But I need to be tenderhearted, too. Our amazing God knows how to act in every situation. He is my example. Thanks again, and stay healthy!

[Cal]

*************

[Cal]

E75 - The Top 5 Things "the Lord's Recovery Got Wrong - "The Lord's Recovery" of Witness Lee

My top five list of the worst of "the Lords' Recovery"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UEZj-2Nb2I

[Cal]

E76 - Get Me to the Church On TIme - "The Lord's Recovery" of Witness Lee

How "the Lord's Recovery" has missed what God really wants us to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNqx1jxAdA

My parents forced me into the local church in Anaheim. I fought the whole thing from day one. I hated it I did not subscribe I didn't follow anything. Every day I waited for it to fall. I don't know maybe I sensed already it was something that was not on the up and up and in fact evil. The people that came out of there were decent folks but I have no contact with any nor do I want any. There are some that are still in it and I'm glad they're on their own. I follow no man nor am I afraid.

[Cal]

Three new episodes on Examining the Lord's Recovery. Happy New Year!

E89 - shepherdingwords.com - Review of October 2020 articles, Part 1

Part 1 of review of October 2020 Lord's Recovery articles on shepherdingwords.com.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYjfMKFd9C0


E90 - shepherdingwords.com - Review of October 2020 articles, Part 2

Part 2 of review of October 2020 Lord's Recovery articles on shepherdingwords.com.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8KzNtybAc


E91 - Stewards... or Snobs. You Can't Be Both.

Discussing the "Lord's Recovery's" sectarian policy of separating themselves from all other Christian churches and works, which is in essence spiritual snobbery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZKtaHZWf0

[Cal]

E92 - The Sect of Oneness

Discussing how the "Lord's Recovery" publicly and in writing admits to being a sect, which they try to justify by being sectarian about "oneness."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuhY6_Iu0Io

[Cal]

E93 - shepherdingwords.com - Yet More Recovery Gaslighting

Examining the April 2021 posts on shepherdingwords.com, where the LR gaslights about history and "the tree of life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ijiWp8ddw

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Cal

E93 - shepherdingwords.com - Yet More Recovery Gaslighting

Examining the April 2021 posts on shepherdingwords.com, where the LR gaslights about history and "the tree of life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ijiWp8ddw

There is lots of history with his other son, Timothy Lee, also. I wish the people/victims involved would go public with that.

[Cal]

I felt to quickly follow up the last message with more clarification about how the LR distorts and abuses "life and peace."


E94 - How the "Lord's Recovery" Abuses the Truth of Life and Peace

Examining how the LR says having any misgivings or doubts about their movement causes a loss of "life and peace," and how to handle this deception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkinYRCh6us

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Cal

E93 - shepherdingwords.com - Yet More Recovery Gaslighting

Examining the April 2021 posts on shepherdingwords.com, where the LR gaslights about history and "the tree of life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ijiWp8ddw

Yes, it is more Recovery Gaslighting.
Let's talk about Hiding History? To talk about history of the Recovery and to omit Timothy Lee or Phillip Lee is hiding history.
I don't know about you but the co-workers come across as if they were always in position "in the know".
Which ones were in Elden Hall AND Anaheim throughout the 1970's? I don't know, but logically they would have to be at least 80 years old presently in order to have been in a responsible brother capacity in Elden Hall, Anaheim or another Southern California locality.
There is so much effort trying to dismiss Steve Isitt's research on Hiding History. It is research. Steve was the one on his own time interviewing various brothers whether it was by email, by phone, or by face to face contact. Many of whom being interviewed gave their eyewitness accounts. For Shepherdingwords.com to trying to counter eyewitness testimony as being false is bearing false witness.

[Cal]

E119 - The Lord's Recovery's Errors About Apostleship and Church Autonomy

Reviewing shepherdingwords.com June 2023 articles, in which "the Lord's Recovery" makes several major errors concerning apostleship and church autonomy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrELdD26UW0


I see some comments for me. I will review them and respond later. Thanks for watching my videos!

[Trapped]

Cal, just wanted to say that there are lots messages being sent in one-on-one communication among former members when your videos come out. Things like "Cal just put out a new video!", "We watched Cal's new episode last night; you will find such-and-such part very helpful!" and "He really nailed it so clearly about the control!" etc, etc.

Just wanted to pass that along so you know many people continue to be so helped by your channel, even if the comments and gratitude occur behind the scenes rather than where you actually see them on this forum or on the channel itself.

Grateful for your continued examination of the Lord's Recovery!

Trapped

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Trapped

Cal, just wanted to say that there are lots messages being sent in one-on-one communication among former members when your videos come out. Things like "Cal just put out a new video!", "We watched Cal's new episode last night; you will find such-and-such part very helpful!" and "He really nailed it so clearly about the control!" etc, etc.

Just wanted to pass that along so you know many people continue to be so helped by your channel, even if the comments and gratitude occur behind the scenes rather than where you actually see them on this forum or on the channel itself.

Grateful for your continued examination of the Lord's Recovery!

Trapped

Thank you, T! That means a lot. I appreciate your and everyone else's support and prayers!

[Cal]

E107 - The Fallacy of "the Feeling of the Body"

Examining how "the Lord's Recovery's" teaching of "the feeling of the Body" is actually contrary to what the Bible teaches about the Body of Christ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtt2XbXhYS0

[Cal]

E108 - Don't Rule Out Stupidity

Examining the mind control of "the Lord's Recovery" in the light of Christian theologian and martyr Diedrich Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity. With video "Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity" by Sprouts Schools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yib6YxJgN0Q

[Cal]

E109 - Why "The Lord's Recovery" is Doomed

Discussing how "the Lord's Recovery" exists in a purgatory of their own making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4-KUlDr0fI