The Divine and Mystical Realm

[stillseekingtruth]

Is the Divine and Mystical realm a real place that we can really be if we're 'in our spirit?'

[Nell]

Originally Posted by stillseekingtruth

Is the Divine and Mystical realm a real place that we can really be if we're 'in our spirit?'

What does the Bible say?

Nell

[stillseekingtruth]

Originally Posted by stillseekingtruth

Is the Divine and Mystical realm a real place that we can really be if we're 'in our spirit?'

Ummmmm.....

[UntoHim]

"One who has experienced God’s judicial redemption may be considered saved by being redeemed only, but he still needs to be saved more by God’s organic salvation in the accomplishing of God’s economy."(emphasis added)
Witness Lee
The Divine and Mystical Realm
@ministrybooks.org

This little snippet pretty much says it all. Only Witness Lee could try to get away with making such outrageous and absurd statements like "saved by being redeemed only" and "be saved more". Of course he didn't use any verses to back up such nonsense...because there aren't any. A little later Lee does go on to use more conventional language, but as far as I'm concerned, the damage to the hearts and minds of his followers is already done - Witness has convinced them that one can only enter into "The Divine and Mystical Realm" - by "accomplishing God's economy", which simply means following his person and his work (by submitting to his authority, and those whom his granted his authority, and following his personal ministry).

It should go without saying that if there is a genuine divine and mystical realm then it is painfully obvious that neither Witness Lee nor those who follow his person and work were in it. Maybe to put a finer point on all this, if Lee and his followers are those who live and minister within this so-called "divine and mystical realm", then I want nothing to do with it. Nor would I recommend any new believer or young person to enter into this realm. And if you are already in it by birth or by choice...Get Thee Out!
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[stillseekingtruth]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

"One who has experienced God’s judicial redemption may be considered saved by being redeemed only, but he still needs to be saved more by God’s organic salvation in the accomplishing of God’s economy."(emphasis added)
Witness Lee
The Divine and Mystical Realm
@ministrybooks.org

So, does this led to the idea of full salvation? I can't find a verse in the bible that uses that term, but I know in Peter there is talk about growing. long for the pure milk of the word, that by it you may grow unto salvation. HOw do we grow unto salvation? Aren't we saved or not?

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by WitnessLee

"One who has experienced God’s judicial redemption may be considered saved by being redeemed only, but he still needs to be saved more by God’s organic salvation in the accomplishing of God’s economy."(emphasis added)

Yes there is a verse, (and the thought is present in many other verses too).

Romans 5:10: For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life!

God’s judicial redemption may be considered saved by being redeemed only - we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son

but he still needs to be saved more by God’s organic salvation - how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life!

[Jo S]

What do the Local Churches teach about repentance?

[stillseekingtruth]

Originally Posted by Jo S

What do the Local Churches teach about repentance?

Very little. They do talk about spending time with the Lord and confessing our sins, however, we can't change. I mean, we can't change our behavior. Only God can if we eat Jesus by calling on the Lord, pray reading, and going to to the meetings. So the message is don't try to change just eat Jesus.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Jo S

What do the Local Churches teach about repentance?

They teach it is a change in thinking, a repudiation of the past way of life.