Royalties ?

[Boxjobox]

I'm curious, does anyone know if Al Knoch and John Ingalls received royalties for their translation of the Recovery Version? Did John Ingalls receive royalties for his compilation of the Hymnal, and for his songs. Nothing against these brothers, I'm just curious of the LSM business set up. Did local elders receive any compensation for the sell of LSM in their localities? For pushing their products?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

I'm curious, does anyone know if Al Knoch and John Ingalls received royalties for their translation of the Recovery Version? Did John Ingalls receive royalties for his compilation of the Hymnal, and for his songs. Nothing against these brothers, I'm just curious of the LSM business set up. Did local elders receive any compensation for the sell of LSM in their localities? For pushing their products?

Have you read John Ingalls' account Speaking The Truth In Love?

John talks about getting fired by Philip Lee, and his work was basically canned.

His name has effectively been expunged from all LSM publications, including the Hymnal.

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Have you read John Ingalls' account Speaking The Truth In Love?

John talks about getting fired by Philip Lee, and his work was basically canned.

His name has effectively been expunged from all LSM publications, including the Hymnal.

I'm asking about royalties-a percentage of the profits from each sell.

[Boxjobox]

That posted phone conversation between Sal and WL over LSM business was quite eye opening. To find out that Sal as an elder had no clue how LSM was run, and that WL didn't want to reveal the set up made me wonder just what the elders really got out of throwing themselves and the church into the hands of such. I know the little potatoes (to borrow a term) that did the book room service were not compensated. But I kind of thought that the relation of the elders to LSM may have been quid pro quo. Was there any compensation to the elders for following the LSM scheme?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

That posted phone conversation between Sal and WL over LSM business was quite eye opening. To find out that Sal as an elder had no clue how LSM was run, and that WL didn't want to reveal the set up made me wonder just what the elders really got out of throwing themselves and the church into the hands of such. I know the little potatoes (to borrow a term) that did the book room service were not compensated. But I kind of thought that the relation of the elders to LSM may have been quid pro quo. Was there any compensation to the elders for following the LSM scheme?

All authority flowed down hill, and all money went uphill.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Ohio

All authority flowed down hill, and all money went uphill.

Here's a post summarizing a testimony of a Brasilian LC'er who'd once had the temerity to ask Dong Yu Lan where the money was going:

Originally Posted by Freedom

This is an interesting testimony. What is striking are the parallels to Lee, even so much as DYL's son being put in charge of a business and the claims of money laundering. With respect to DYL and WL, the apple really didn't fall far from the tree. This is something that has been completely ignored by LSM leaders. They see those like TC or DYL and the havoc that is being wrecked (not to mention their own blended havoc), and then assume the problem can all be amounted to a brother being "off". Did anyone ever realize even for a second that the existence of TC and DYL can be credited to Lee? They both spawned from him. Just consider the life of King Lee, he was a one man show, claiming to be carrying out "God's move". He was viewed a sole source of authority and as God's mouthpiece on earth. It shouldn't surprise anyone that brothers saw this example and followed suit..

This lack of transparency, lack of accountability, and loyalty to men rather than laws, seen clearly with WN, WL, TC, and DYL, is culturally-conditioned such that #1 they don't see themselves as doing anything wrong; #2 they don't see any alternative as feasible to the current way of things; and #3 they explode with indignation if someone has the temerity to suggest that things might be otherwise. Whether Sal Benoit on the phone with WL or a rank-and-file lieutenant questioning DYL's "black box" finances, anyone within the fiefdom who wants to modify it will be labeled a "rebellious one" or "ambitious" or an "accuser" and will be shown the door. The system has 5,000 years of cultural accretion behind it, and as long as the Deputy God knows more Bible verses than the mass of people they lord over, they'll keep it that way. And the tree that these apples are falling from is oriental culture: WN, WL, DYL, TC are all feeding from the same root source.

Look at Singapore: not Communist, but Oriental. One family runs the show. People there go along because they'll be punished and ostracized as seditious if they don't comply; and because everyone in Singapore has a job, the trains run on time, the garbage gets collected, the electricity works - good enough. . . the culture values stability over the uncertainty of freedom.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/...-and-nepotism/

As do the Little Flock/LCs in their various iterations. Stability equals functionality and peace, while accountability and transparency signals instability and unrest. So in this system, everyone gets to be a "small potato" except the Deputy God, who's supposedly so transformed that they fly under a different set of rules, DG rules. And the main rule to remember is, "Whatever DG wants today is to-days up-to-date truth". No matter if it contradicts yesterday's speaking (early Lee vs later Lee), or scripture, or common sense, or apostolic precedent. The Deputy God needs "x" today.