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05-25-2017, 10:08 PM | #1 |
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Hi all,
I'm a former LC'er and have deeply appreciated this board. so many stories to relate to and testimonies. one of the things I wish I had back then is a resource like this one earlier on (i found this site much later after much digging) that is beyond the heavily censored wikipedia page by probably the fulltimers in anaheim. I put together a page on reddit where people can post links and discuss matters related to LSM. Hopefully some will find it useful. Please feel free to delete if this is in violation of forum rules, as I'm just trying to put something out there that brings more of the LC to light to help other and have 0 financial interests. reddit.com/r/lordsrecovey Note from Admin: The link above appears to be incomplete and/or broken. I think this might be the site the poster is referring us to - https://www.reddit.com/r/lordsrecovery/ |
05-26-2017, 04:10 PM | #2 |
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From the link provided in this thread:
“We also have the burden to help the trainees to grow absolutely in the divine life. Finally, they have to be built up in their character. They need to be trained to dress properly and to give people a good impression of their appearance. If we do not have a good appearance, who will listen to us or respect us? We must adjust ourselves. If a co-worker teaches the truth without a necktie, the people’s confidence in him will be killed. The way we dress, cut our hair, and comb our hair will give us a proper appearance which can help gain people’s regard and respect. In the past we were too loose and self-contented. Those who work for the Lord should dress in a way that is fitting in the Lord’s work.” Witness Lee, Elders’ Training Book 9 – The Eldership and the God-Ordained Way (1), p. 15, ch. 11 They linked this from http://www.ftta.org/incoming-trainee...uidelines.html I found this interesting and immediately thought of Matthew 3, "4 Now John himself had a garment of camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey. 5 Then Jerusalem was going out to him, and all Judea and all the district around the Jordan; 6 and they were being baptized by him in the Jordan River, as they confessed their sins."
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What's worse? A homeless guy, who really needs a meal, asking for money? Or the wealthy pastor in his tailored suit and Audi A8 asking for money?
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So there are these big churches, plenty of money, the best sound and lighting equipment, the best stage effects if required, and the pastor, who is on a salary of who knows what, he can afford a decent suit, probably has one at home, decides to "dress down" so he can appear more "John the Baptist"-like. At least, do it for the sake of the women. Women mostly, pay attention to these things, and prefer men dress neatly rather than sloppily. |
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Why is it you are soooo suspicious of every minister outside the Recovery? You are suspicious of them wearing suits. You are suspicious of them in plain clothes. Does it not bother you that you pre-judge every one you meet, and also those you have never met?
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To the pure all things are pure: but to them that are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. -- Titus 1.15
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In fact, I daresay that most shiny suits are merely a coverup for the lack of spiritual content and anointing. Did the apostles impress the believers with nice clothing or their life, living, and message? When I left the LC's I was fed up with polished speakers from LSM in nice suits spewing death and doctrine about distorted oneness, legalistic traditions, and the ministry of condemnation from one of Lee's books.
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05-26-2017, 08:46 PM | #10 |
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You mean John the Baptist?
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05-26-2017, 08:55 PM | #11 |
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I think that it is easy to reject someone because they are dressed too poorly.
No one can really complain and say "you are dressed too nicely". If there is something we can do to make it easier for someone to accept the gospel then we should do it. For example, turning up to a meeting on time, dressing nicely. It's ultimately based on the second great commandment. But casual irreverence does not really present the right image. People will dress nicely for a job interview, a wedding or a funeral, but won't dress nicely for God. |
05-27-2017, 10:07 AM | #12 |
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I wonder what it would have looked like if John was led by the ministry of Witness Lee rather than the Holy Spirit? He could have reached so many more college students... and had much more fashion sense.
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Hey Aron - Just updated the sidebar. Thank you very much for the suggestion! I am trying to round up the best resources for those who come across the page googling so I am open to whatever else others have found. |
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05-29-2017, 08:24 AM | #15 |
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John Ingalls account Speaking The Truth In Love ia an absolute must.
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05-30-2017, 12:52 AM | #16 |
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*18 Points Reconsidered and *Deviating from the path in the Lord's Recovery don't go anywhere. What happened to Steve Isitt's writings? I see it on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Hiding-Histor.../dp/1503213072 But not online. Steve's website "twoturmoils" seems to be down. If you haven't read Steve Isitt's history of the Lord's Recovery in the USA & Europe, you really should. At one meeting, Witness Lee said, "We should find out what happened to those who left the Recovery", and Steve did. When he brought his findings to the 'responsible brothers', they told him not to bother them. "We don't have a heart for this", etc. When he persisted, he was expelled from the group.
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You also might post a link to an objective biography of Watchman Nee. http://www.bdcconline.net/en/stories/n/ni-tuosheng.php A lot of the so-called biographies of Nee are very biased, to say the least. This biography lists his repeated sexual indiscretions. Also it notes that the indigenous churches in China flourished against a back-drop of anti-Westernism, versus merely anti-denominationism. Also it notes that his 'Spiritual Man' was an unattributed copy of Jessie Penn-Lewis. Also says that his original first two "co-apostolic" allies were women: Peace Wang and Ruth Lee. Is that "normal" or "bibical"? Not arguing against women in leadership roles, but rather noting the hypocrisy in this movement. Ultimately it assured that Nee, like Lee after him, would have control. Neither of them would brook any peers. In this, Lee learned well from Nee. Also it notes that Nee "mesmerised" his listeners during meetings. Not sure that is a positive thing. If you look at the history of mesmerisation in Christian meetings in North America in the 20th century, it's the doorway to deviation. From Aimee Semple McPherson riding a motorcycle into a meeting, to the Local Church and it's "moves" and "flows" to the so-called Toronto Blessing and so-called Lakeland Revival. I see excitement, even frenzy, whilst basic truths of Christian faith are marginalised. I write all this because many who are disenchanted with the Local Church experience think that Nee was pure as snow but somehow the thing "deviated" along the way. Instead, perhaps deviation was built into the foundation.
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