New LSM Website: ministrypropagation.org

[Koinonia]

In line with LSM's latest push to get people to buy more of their books, they have put out a new website: "The Faithful and Diligent Spreading of the Truth."

The contact names given are Michio Miyake, Jim Miller, Bill Lawson, Steve Watts, and Samuel Liu. These are the same brothers that Benson Phillips, Andrew Yu, and Ray Graver commissioned to the LCs as being sent out to promote the reading of LSM ministry books.

An examination of this website will show just how far off the LC has gone. I hope that LC lurkers will take this seriously. LC members, I can relate to you. I grew up in the LC and gave my life to the LC. I left the LC because of my spiritual seeking. The kind of blatant commercialization and manipulation seen in this effort are absolutely astounding. Reminiscent of the Jehovah's Witnesses or Exclusive Brethren.

Two of the worst pages I came across are:

• "Three Keys for an Active/Healthy Publication Service: People, Products, Programs"
• "How to Set Up a Healthy Book Service"

Please take a look and discuss here. It is so off-putting to me that it is hard for me even to analyze it.

[HERn]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

In line with LSM's latest push to get people to buy more of their books, they have put out a new website: "The Faithful and Diligent Spreading of the Truth."

The contact names given are Michio Miyake, Jim Miller, Bill Lawson, Steve Watts, and Samuel Liu. These are the same brothers that Benson Phillips, Andrew Yu, and Ray Graver commissioned to the LCs as being sent out to promote the reading of LSM ministry books.

An examination of this website will show just how far off the LC has gone. I hope that LC lurkers will take this seriously. LC members, I can relate to you. I grew up in the LC and gave my life to the LC. I left the LC because of my spiritual seeking. The kind of blatant commercialization and manipulation seen in this effort are absolutely astounding. Reminiscent of the Jehovah's Witnesses or Exclusive Brethren.

Two of the worst pages I came across are:

• "Three Keys for an Active/Healthy Publication Service: People, Products, Programs"
• "How to Set Up a Healthy Book Service"

Please take a look and discuss here. It is so off-putting to me that it is hard for me even to analyze it.

From the first link i found the name Christ mentioned zero times, Jesus mentioned zero times; but ministry mentioned 16 times, LSM 10 times, and Lee 2 times. from this I assume that Christ is not being promoted, but the ministry of LSM as started by Lee is the focus of this new move. Sad that none of the elders or blendeds see this; I guess they have been blinded.

[Freedom]

The pictures on the site are just plain bizarre. It reminds me of the Eastern Lightning website that I visited several days ago.

[Koinonia]

Originally Posted by Freedom

The pictures on the site are just plain bizarre. It reminds me of the Eastern Lightning website that I visited several days ago.

That's funny--I thought exactly the same thing.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

Please take a look and discuss here. It is so off-putting to me that it is hard for me even to analyze it.

What is perhaps the most disturbing is the way that they equate their ministry books with "the truth." Upon that notion is seems they feel any amount of promotion is justified.

What they are doing here is blatantly obvious. It's a scheme to advertise, promote, and sell LSM products, using whatever means necessary. All the while LC members are made to feel deficient in their reading of LSM books, so as to subtly convince them to buy/read more. It disgusts me to see people manipulated like that. Those involved in this promotion should be ashamed of themselves.

[Koinonia]

I have been informed that this website was announced yesterday to all of the brothers attending the ITERO in Anaheim. The brothers listed on the website gave a special presentation about the website and LSM's new library/display-set promotion. I wonder how many people in that audience sit there inwardly bothered that they go to all of this trouble to hear a blatant marketing pitch.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

I have been informed that this website was announced yesterday to all of the brothers attending the ITERO in Anaheim. The brothers listed on the website gave a special presentation about the website and LSM's new library/display-set promotion. I wonder how many people in that audience sit there inwardly bothered that they go to all of this trouble to hear a blatant marketing pitch.

Good question.

In my experience, whenever there was a new promotion, it was not unheard of for there to be at least some amount of reluctance expressed by the local elders. Of course, they didn’t express any disagreement intentionally, it was more of a natural reaction. As would be expected, eventually they would find a way to get with the program and rationalize the new promotion.

With this latest gimmick to sell ministry books, I would guess that elders will be convinced of a supposed ‘need’ among those in the LC to read more “ministry material.” It seems, however, that no one would think to ask the question as to why selling books would correlate to getting people to read them. The market is already saturated with LSM material. People have every opportunity to buy books, but they don’t. That says it all.

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

I wonder how many people in that audience sit there inwardly bothered that they go to all of this trouble to hear a blatant marketing pitch.

Unfortunately many of these brothers have been conditioned to not be inwardly bothered, so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached to the "blatant marketing pitch". Just ask the saints that "lost their virginity" (and mucho dinero) investing their hard-earned money on this beauty:


Fast forward 40+ years...and now the Local Church brothers and sisters are being asked to invest their hard-earned money yet again on some more outdated, over-priced merchandise. I guess the Blended Brothers think their is another whole new crop of saints that won't mind "losing their virginity" (and mucho dinero)...so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached.
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[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Unfortunately many of these brothers have been conditioned to not be inwardly bothered, so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached to the "blatant marketing pitch". Just ask the saints that "lost their virginity" (and mucho dinero) investing their hard-earned money on this beauty:


Fast forward 40+ years...and now the Local Church brothers and sisters are being asked to invest their hard-earned money yet again on some more outdated, over-priced merchandise. I guess the Blended Brothers think their is another whole new crop of saints that won't mind "losing their virginity" (and mucho dinero)...so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached.
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You’ve said it Unto. From Daystar, to Linko, to Standing Orders, the issue is never truth, but generating revenue. Why is it the only GLA localities that experienced lawsuits were those with real estate?
Now this! Don’t get me wrong I think the concept is long overdue, but the motive is very impure. I reflect back to my time in the late 90’s. Ever Lord’s Day meeting was capped off with a Standing Order promotion. I know many elders and coworkers may make 6 figure income or close to it, but not everyone has the luxury to invest in LSM publications. Some I knew just making rent or mortgage each month was a challenge. Do the coworkers really expect buying into publications is more essential than housing or food? Those really dedicated to the ministry would charge it on a card even if it means going further in debt.
My point instead of making it a case of revenue with the standing order, turn bookrooms into a library system. Of course there’s no money to be made there so that’s a bad idea even though there was a library system for audio tapes.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Unfortunately many of these brothers have been conditioned to not be inwardly bothered, so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached to the "blatant marketing pitch". Just ask the saints that "lost their virginity" (and mucho dinero) investing their hard-earned money on this beauty:

Fast forward 40+ years...and now the Local Church brothers and sisters are being asked to invest their hard-earned money yet again on some more outdated, over-priced merchandise. I guess the Blended Brothers think their is another whole new crop of saints that won't mind "losing their virginity" (and mucho dinero)...so long as the name of Witness Lee is attached.
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But Bro UntoHim ... you just need to see the "vision."

[least]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

In line with LSM's latest push to get people to buy more of their books, they have put out a new website: "The Faithful and Diligent Spreading of the Truth."

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Accurately it should be titled:
The Faithful and Diligent Spreading of the LSM MOTA
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