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Old 01-14-2015, 01:25 PM   #1
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When all is said and done, and the dross is burned away, it's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632CHpeHYZE

Love your neighbor as yourself.

It is better to give than to receive.

By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
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When all is said and done, and the dross is burned away, it's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632CHpeHYZE

Love your neighbor as yourself.

It is better to give than to receive.

By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
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Old 01-14-2015, 03:12 PM   #3
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I wonder what Jesus' response would have been if the rich young ruler had asked "Lord, what's Your Father's economy?" Do you think the Lord Jesus would have answered "God's economy is for me to became a man so that man could become God in life and nature but not in the Godhead", or something maybe like "Love the Father with all your heart, soul, and strength; and your neighbor as yourself". Sometimes I get the sense from the LSM crowd that Jesus' speaking is not really up to date with God's current move on the earth.
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I wonder what Jesus' response would have been if the rich young ruler had asked "Lord, what's Your Father's economy?" Do you think the Lord Jesus would have answered "God's economy is for me to became a man so that man could become God in life and nature but not in the Godhead", or something maybe like "Love the Father with all your heart, soul, and strength; and your neighbor as yourself". Sometimes I get the sense from the LSM crowd that Jesus' speaking is not really up to date with God's current move on the earth.
I guess we have to accept Paul's interpretation of the scripture as well: Acts 4:32-37; Acts 11:29; 1 Cor 16:1-2; 2 Cor. 7:3,13-16; 8:6,10-11, 20; Rom. 15:26; Gal. 2:10; James 1:27 for starters.
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I wonder what Jesus' response would have been if the rich young ruler had asked "Lord, what's Your Father's economy?" Do you think the Lord Jesus would have answered "God's economy is for me to became a man so that man could become God in life and nature but not in the Godhead", or something maybe like "Love the Father with all your heart, soul, and strength; and your neighbor as yourself". Sometimes I get the sense from the LSM crowd that Jesus' speaking is not really up to date with God's current move on the earth.
It's amazing how the whole teaching of "God's Economy" neglects the very basics of what Jesus taught. It's almost like LC members feel that they are above giving to the poor, that they are too good for that. It's an attitude I've run into before. They don't have time to love their neighbors unless they are a fellow LC members. It makes me sick sometimes.
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They don't have time to love their neighbors unless they are a fellow LC members. It makes me sick sometimes.
2006 there was a former LC sister getting ready to move from Redlands, California to Texas. My wife and I had lunch with her while we were visiting on our vacation. I tried to get brothers who could help this sister moved. Not one. It's a case of loving those who love us. Since she was not meeting with the local church, there is no one available from the local church to help.

My wife and I experienced the same thing when we moved into our first house in 2001. We were several months removed from our last meeting at the time. When asking for help, no one was available. My wife couldn't do much. We had a 2 year old son and a 8th month old daughter. We did get moved, but I learned a lesson that day.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:12 AM   #7
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I think one of Witness Lee's biggest errors was the way he was dismissive of good works. I haven't seen anything in the Bible that suggests that God is displeased when people do genuinely good things in a simple human way for others. Lee stated that works done outside the Spirit were worthless. Now, I understand that Christians should get their direction and empowerment from God. But to take that to the extreme and suggest that God therefore hates average people simply behaving as he commanded in a simple way is to me just a flat-out error.

What God rejects is when people try to justify themselves completely before him by their works, even to the point of telling God he isn't needed. It's self-righteousness he hates, not good works.

The Bible is full of commandments telling us to do good and reject evil. When someone in his conscience decides to do the right thing because it is the right thing, I think God always honors that. Certainly it's even better to be a person who is filled with the Spirit doing good works. But that doesn't mean that a person who is not a Christian who does good works is doing something God hates when he or she performs a genuine act of kindness. It just means those works cannot ultimately save him or her. But to think they mean nothing to God is just, to use a theological term, a flat-out error. It's just another example of LC arrogance and ignorance.
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It's amazing how the whole teaching of "God's Economy" neglects the very basics of what Jesus taught. It's almost like LC members feel that they are above giving to the poor, that they are too good for that. It's an attitude I've run into before. They don't have time to love their neighbors unless they are a fellow LC members. It makes me sick sometimes.
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Churchs are nothing but brainwashing scams. Our DNA goes back bilions of years, cilvilations found over 500,000 years old. What did our ancestors believe in? Certainly not events that took place 2,000+ years ago.
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Churchs are nothing but brainwashing scams. Our DNA goes back bilions of years, cilvilations found over 500,000 years old. What did our ancestors believe in? Certainly not events that took place 2,000+ years ago.
My ancestors were Northern European Catholics and Lutherans. They believed in God, whose name is Jesus Christ.
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UReg>Our DNA goes back bilions of years

Oh you mean
single-celled prokaryotic cells... bacteria. Well, okay, perhaps .... for some.

Talk about a brainwashing religion... that theory of evolution is a doozy of a scam. Well it has been bantered about elsewhere ad nauseum.

I prefer just to stand with my brother Ohio and his ancestors..... My God is Jesus Christ.

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Talk about a brainwashing religion... that theory of evolution is a doozy of a scam. Well it has been bantered about elsewhere ad nauseum.

I think we just got plastered by a drive by ...

A "doozy of a scam" ...

I couldn't have said it any better.
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I think we just got plastered by a drive by ...

A "doozy of a scam" ...

I couldn't have said it any better.
Man evolved to believe in God. So evolutionists just haven't evolved enough yet. They're just not evolved.
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Man evolved to believe in God. So evolutionists just haven't evolved enough yet. They're just not evolved.
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