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05-16-2012, 07:55 AM | #1 |
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The Last Chaper of A Future and A Hope is now posted!
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05-16-2012, 08:52 AM | #2 | |
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Re: The Last Chaper of A Further and A Hope is now posted!
Here's the book's conclusion ...
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05-16-2012, 11:16 AM | #3 |
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Re: The Last Chaper of A Future and A Hope is now posted!
Great finish to a great book. I applaud John for having the courage to write it.
I think all of us at some point need to take seriously Paul's admonition to forget the things which are behind and reach forward to the things which are ahead (Phil 3:13). There is nothing we can do about the past. We can only learn from it and put it in perspective. The worst thing you can do is let your past kill your future. I appreciated this quote from Johnny Cash recently: "You build on failure. You use it as a stepping stone. Close the door on the past. You don't try to forget the mistakes, but you don't dwell on it. You don't let it have any of your energy, or any of your time, or any of your space."I think this is was Paul was talking about. Learn from the past, live in the present, hope for the future. I pray for all those affected by the LC Movement that they will see and experience a future and a hope beyond and brighter than their past. |
05-16-2012, 04:31 PM | #4 |
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Interesting read.
I note that he takes the Concerned Brothers to task a little for not really reconsidering the core LRC/Nee/Lee teachings. And he is polite enough not to actually say that core LRC doctrine is simply wrong. (For example, when mentioning that Jesus v religion video, he does not suggest that the subject matter seriously goes beyond what Jesus would be against.) Yet you are left with the impression that he does think that is true (the core LRC doctrine is wrong). In the end, he gets away with bashing Lee (even Nee a little) and the LRC in a way that I would get drawn and quartered for by a few people. I guess credentials do count for something. (And he is the one who has them if either of us do.) And, while he never justifies the "c" label, the way he describes the group would get the label as long as you can do it without invoking the wrath of the "but they're not like [fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-suicide-cult]" contingent.
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05-16-2012, 09:18 PM | #5 | |
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Myer was honest to address the real situation in the GLA churches, though he never mentioned by name who actually rules the region with an iron fist.
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Funny thing is TC used to mock the brothers calling them, "yellow-bellied push-button robots." How many times did I hear that!?! Yet no brother, including myself, ever had the guts to stand up TC bully tactics. I guess he was right. Due to the shackles of errant and distorted teachings of spiritual authority, we all truly were "yellow-bellied push-button robots!" One senior worker in Cleveland, who has since departed, said TC treated him "like a dog." Even sadder than silence is the bad pattern duplicated among the other workers under TC. Just recently I heard a story of obnoxious abuse by TC's right hand man TM. The victim was another soft-hearted, well-loved, and appreciated shepherd, who has had a positive influence over many a brother and sister over the years. He has left the Recovery, but, of course, TM of Cleveland has not. The abusive ones tend to stay. I too have learned that lesson the hard way. After the sad days of strife which so characterized the quarantine in the GLA, one dear couple came to me and encouraged me saying that "things were better now." Peace following fighting always is pleasant. But, as I have said from the beginning, the GLA LC's would never change as long as the same leaders were in place. It's just amazing to me now, looking back, at how sympathetic we all were to TC, as he told us those many stories of how he was abused by those in Anaheim. Did someone say that bullies tend to reproduce bullies?!?
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05-17-2012, 12:14 AM | #6 |
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From page 8 of the last chapter;
"With the repetitive stress on oneness inside the LC Movement, why has division still occurred? Because over-emphasis on items beyond the oneness of the spirit (Eph. 4:3-6) always leads to division. It is incredible that no Movement leaders seem to have discovered this fatal habit..... As long as its definition of oneness does not change, division will continue being a regular cyclical affair in the LC Movement, much the same as with its Brethren progenitors. Like in Babel, oneness cannot be found outside the person of Christ, no matter how many messages are given to promote it." I would add not just the definition of oneness needs to change, but the concept of oneness needs to change. |
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