Church Kid Testimonial Living Stream Ministry The Local Church

Nell · 01-19-2023, 06:41 AM

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Thanks--Nell

Hey guys,
I’ve been wanting to make a video like this for quite some time and I think now is the time for me to actually speak about it. I am a “church Kid”. I have been in the church since 1987. First, Honduras, then Miami and then my last church experience was in Austin.

I swore I’d never do one of these videos because, first of all I know the majority of the people in the church don’t want to hear about this or see it, won’t even look at it and or if they do, they’re just going to write me off as poisonous or negative or “in the world” or whatever. All the things that come up, or “she’s crazy” or you know, “she got divorced” and so she “went off on the dark side” or whatever. I really don’t care. I just…this is more for the people that are actually…on the line…and want to maybe hear another opinion or someone that’s actkually lived through it and wants some hope maybe.

Nell · 01-19-2023, 11:13 AM

1 - OVERCOMER
I don’t know where to start because I have so much information. I don’t want to make this too long because then no one wants to watch it, but basically there’s a few things, the biggest thing I struggled with, and everyone that’s in the churches knows this, you know, this whole concept of being an “overcomer”. It’s been daunting me. It’s been this biggest one of the biggest things I’ve dealt with growing up in this group was this idea of being an overcomer and I don’t know where they got this from, but I’ve talked to so many people that are “well I’m just going to be in outer darkness, and I’m going to suffer for those thousand years…and that’s it…because I’m not an overcomer.

I remember thinking “Man! Okay, maybe if I can just get myself to read the Morning Revival every day or if I can get myself to read the Bible or go to all the home meetings and go to the meetings on Sunday and always be on top of it and bring in new ones…then I’ll be an overcomer. But really, if you just do the math, statistically speaking, the odds were not in my favor. I was always (thinking) “I’m never gonna be an overcomer” and it just always seemed like such an impossible thing.

Nell · 01-19-2023, 11:14 AM

2 - A LOVING GOD?
It doesn’t make any sense. We talk about this God that’s so loving, so sweet, so amazing. As a parent, and I have four boys, as a parent I would never, ever punish my children the way the church says they’re going to…that God’s gonna punish or judge us or we’re going to have to go through this transformation. You know it’s just fear-based. It’s all for your base.

Any political, any government entity, anyone in power, knows that fear is the best way to get people to move. You can see that from the whole experience, it’s all fear—fear based. When you have someone in a position of fear, you’re able to control them.

Nell · 01-19-2023, 11:15 AM

3 - FEAR BASED
That’s what this church does. It’s all fear-based. If you’re not an “overcomer”, if you don’t do “this”, if you don’t do “that”. It’s very subtle and it never sat right with me. I always felt like such an outcast in the church. I was like “I’m never going to be that kind of sister.” I’m never going to talk like “her”, be able to share like “her” in the meetings. I was always putting myself down. My confidence was so low in that group. I was always saying “I’m never going to be an ‘overcomer’.” I’m not good enough. I can’t read the Bible like this person. I can’t share like that person.

You don’t realize it because it’s such a low lever in your subconscious. You’re constantly putting yourself down. It’s not a positive message. It’s always like they say it is, but it’s really not (positive).

I’ve known so many people in my age group, specifically, were children of people that initially started these churches. And, you know, a lot of them have left..and no one even asks “why”.

A lot of them, it’s all the same thing. We’ve seen the reality…it’s a bunch of BS. The people that are still in it are so brainwashed. I remember years ago when I was in this group, when any kind of video or something that came out on Facebook, it was “don’t watch it! Don’t listen to this! It’s poison!”

Nell · 01-19-2023, 11:16 AM

4 - ASKING QUESTIONS=POISON
Why is it poison? I’m questioning things…anyone should be able to question things…anyone should be able to speak out. What are they trying to cover up? They don’t want the truth to come out. I’ve had over 10 stories I could tell you right now. I’ll tell you a few of them. Oh countless, countless stories of abuse.

Nell · 01-19-2023, 11:19 AM

5 - COVER UP—SEXUAL ABUSE
Cover up sexual abuse. Cover up these guys still in the church, still have kids in their home, still have young people in their home. The elders KNOW they are doing things or have done things to kids…and no one’s doing anything about it.

Home meetings in their homes…I know about this one older man and he did something terrible to a young person in high school and junior high and to several others that came forward that I found out about. He still has young Brothers in his home and he had been molesting the other ones back in the day and no one does anything about it. It’s all in the name of covering this brother or covering the situation, and to me it blows my mind!

And my own family, have had a situation and one male in the family abused another person in the family. Our first instinct as a family, because at the time, we were all in the church, was to cover it up—don’t say anything! We need not to stumble the body. Just go away quietly. What is going on?

That is horrible because, what if that person goes off and does it to another person…and we never reported it! There are legal things in the world for a reason!

People like that are sick and they need to get help. I get it. The message is, if it happens in the world, it will happen in the church life.

…
I’ll tell you this much: the fact that the elders and the leading ones know about it and they don’t do anything about it, for the most part, makes me sick. I’ve had very close contact with several people, several young girls, college girls. So many people who live with these monstrosities of people that are still “in the meetings” and they (young girls) can’t meet because they’re so embarrassed, ashamed, scared to go to the meeting because these people (abusers) are still in the meetings…and no one cares.

Another thing, … we have such judgmental characters, such elitist mentality in this group. I remember even myself. I’m speaking because I’ve had these thoughts. “It’s like, oh well, it’s degraded Christianity. They’re “below us”. “They” don’t know anything. We have the highest truth.

01-19-2023, 06:41 AM	#1
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	Church Kid Testimonial Living Stream Ministry The Local Church I've added the transcript in sections which help to avoid extremely large quoted text. If you find errors, please let me know and I will correct. You may need to read from the bottom up. Thanks--Nell Hey guys, I’ve been wanting to make a video like this for quite some time and I think now is the time for me to actually speak about it. I am a “church Kid”. I have been in the church since 1987. First, Honduras, then Miami and then my last church experience was in Austin. I swore I’d never do one of these videos because, first of all I know the majority of the people in the church don’t want to hear about this or see it, won’t even look at it and or if they do, they’re just going to write me off as poisonous or negative or “in the world” or whatever. All the things that come up, or “she’s crazy” or you know, “she got divorced” and so she “went off on the dark side” or whatever. I really don’t care. I just…this is more for the people that are actually…on the line…and want to maybe hear another opinion or someone that’s actkually lived through it and wants some hope maybe.

01-19-2023, 11:13 AM	#2
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	1 - OVERCOMER 1 - OVERCOMER I don’t know where to start because I have so much information. I don’t want to make this too long because then no one wants to watch it, but basically there’s a few things, the biggest thing I struggled with, and everyone that’s in the churches knows this, you know, this whole concept of being an “overcomer”. It’s been daunting me. It’s been this biggest one of the biggest things I’ve dealt with growing up in this group was this idea of being an overcomer and I don’t know where they got this from, but I’ve talked to so many people that are “well I’m just going to be in outer darkness, and I’m going to suffer for those thousand years…and that’s it…because I’m not an overcomer. I remember thinking “Man! Okay, maybe if I can just get myself to read the Morning Revival every day or if I can get myself to read the Bible or go to all the home meetings and go to the meetings on Sunday and always be on top of it and bring in new ones…then I’ll be an overcomer. But really, if you just do the math, statistically speaking, the odds were not in my favor. I was always (thinking) “I’m never gonna be an overcomer” and it just always seemed like such an impossible thing.

01-19-2023, 11:14 AM	#3
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	2 - A LOVING GOD? 2 - A LOVING GOD? It doesn’t make any sense. We talk about this God that’s so loving, so sweet, so amazing. As a parent, and I have four boys, as a parent I would never, ever punish my children the way the church says they’re going to…that God’s gonna punish or judge us or we’re going to have to go through this transformation. You know it’s just fear-based. It’s all for your base. Any political, any government entity, anyone in power, knows that fear is the best way to get people to move. You can see that from the whole experience, it’s all fear—fear based. When you have someone in a position of fear, you’re able to control them.

01-19-2023, 11:15 AM	#4
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	3 - FEAR BASED 3 - FEAR BASED That’s what this church does. It’s all fear-based. If you’re not an “overcomer”, if you don’t do “this”, if you don’t do “that”. It’s very subtle and it never sat right with me. I always felt like such an outcast in the church. I was like “I’m never going to be that kind of sister.” I’m never going to talk like “her”, be able to share like “her” in the meetings. I was always putting myself down. My confidence was so low in that group. I was always saying “I’m never going to be an ‘overcomer’.” I’m not good enough. I can’t read the Bible like this person. I can’t share like that person. You don’t realize it because it’s such a low lever in your subconscious. You’re constantly putting yourself down. It’s not a positive message. It’s always like they say it is, but it’s really not (positive). I’ve known so many people in my age group, specifically, were children of people that initially started these churches. And, you know, a lot of them have left..and no one even asks “why”. A lot of them, it’s all the same thing. We’ve seen the reality…it’s a bunch of BS. The people that are still in it are so brainwashed. I remember years ago when I was in this group, when any kind of video or something that came out on Facebook, it was “don’t watch it! Don’t listen to this! It’s poison!”

01-19-2023, 11:16 AM	#5
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	4 - ASKING QUESTIONS=POISON 4 - ASKING QUESTIONS=POISON Why is it poison? I’m questioning things…anyone should be able to question things…anyone should be able to speak out. What are they trying to cover up? They don’t want the truth to come out. I’ve had over 10 stories I could tell you right now. I’ll tell you a few of them. Oh countless, countless stories of abuse.

01-19-2023, 11:19 AM	#6
Nell Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,100	5 - COVER UP—SEXUAL ABUSE 5 - COVER UP—SEXUAL ABUSE Cover up sexual abuse. Cover up these guys still in the church, still have kids in their home, still have young people in their home. The elders KNOW they are doing things or have done things to kids…and no one’s doing anything about it. Home meetings in their homes…I know about this one older man and he did something terrible to a young person in high school and junior high and to several others that came forward that I found out about. He still has young Brothers in his home and he had been molesting the other ones back in the day and no one does anything about it. It’s all in the name of covering this brother or covering the situation, and to me it blows my mind! And my own family, have had a situation and one male in the family abused another person in the family. Our first instinct as a family, because at the time, we were all in the church, was to cover it up—don’t say anything! We need not to stumble the body. Just go away quietly. What is going on? That is horrible because, what if that person goes off and does it to another person…and we never reported it! There are legal things in the world for a reason! People like that are sick and they need to get help. I get it. The message is, if it happens in the world, it will happen in the church life. … I’ll tell you this much: the fact that the elders and the leading ones know about it and they don’t do anything about it, for the most part, makes me sick. I’ve had very close contact with several people, several young girls, college girls. So many people who live with these monstrosities of people that are still “in the meetings” and they (young girls) can’t meet because they’re so embarrassed, ashamed, scared to go to the meeting because these people (abusers) are still in the meetings…and no one cares. Another thing, … we have such judgmental characters, such elitist mentality in this group. I remember even myself. I’m speaking because I’ve had these thoughts. “It’s like, oh well, it’s degraded Christianity. They’re “below us”. “They” don’t know anything. We have the highest truth.