Is One Church One City a bad idea or unBiblical?

[Sons to Glory!]

Talking about the idea itself, not what all was necessarily associated with it through WN & WL. For instance, in the Kingdom, will there be any names the Lord's people will be known by other than Christ and perhaps the area they would be living in? Will there be any other distinctions other than area or locality? Or will the Lord's people continue to call themselves by other names - Baptist, Methodist, LCer, non-denominational, etc.?

In other words, in the kingdom would the Lord say to someone, "Go and fellowship with my dear Presbyterian saints in Boston," or would He just refer to "My dear saints in Boston?"

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Talking about the idea itself, not what all was necessarily associated with it through WN & WL. For instance, in the Kingdom, will there be any names the Lord's people will be known by other than Christ and perhaps the area they would be living in? Will there be any other distinctions other than area or locality? Or will the Lord's people continue to call themselves by other names - Baptist, Methodist, LCer, non-denominational, etc.?

In other words, in the kingdom would the Lord say to someone, "Go and fellowship with my dear Presbyterian saints in Boston," or would He just refer to "My dear saints in Boston?"

Boston will no longer be there. It will have been nuked.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Boston will no longer be there. It will have been nuked.

You can't get rid of the Patriots that easily!

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Talking about the idea itself, not what all was necessarily associated with it through WN & WL. For instance, in the Kingdom, will there be any names the Lord's people will be known by other than Christ and perhaps the area they would be living in? Will there be any other distinctions other than area or locality? Or will the Lord's people continue to call themselves by other names - Baptist, Methodist, LCer, non-denominational, etc.?

In other words, in the kingdom would the Lord say to someone, "Go and fellowship with my dear Presbyterian saints in Boston," or would He just refer to "My dear saints in Boston?"

God gave Adam and Eve separate names, He didn't call them by one name. I imagine He will call us by a unique name He gives to each of His children on an individual basis.

When Christ gathers all the believers into the New Jerusalem, only then will there not exist denominations because in His presence the truth will be fully known (1 Cor 13:12).

"One Church, one city" only works when there's only one city with the Messiah as high priest. Never before and never through a movement like the Lord's Recovery.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Jo S

God gave Adam and Eve separate names, He didn't call them by one name. I imagine He will call us by a unique name He gives to each of His children on an individual basis.

When Christ gathers all the believers into the New Jerusalem, only then will there not exist denominations because in His presence the truth will be fully known (1 Cor 13:12).

"One Church, one city" only works when there's only one city with the Messiah as high priest. Never before and never through a movement like the Lord's Recovery.

Good point I need to clarify - by saying no name other than Christ, I didn't mean individuals names. (maybe you'll be Jo Christ - LOL)

And perhaps it's useful to get closer to the Greek word that got erroneously translated as "church": ekklesia; meaning assembly or gathering . . . (i.e., "Go to those gathering in My Name in Boston")

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Good point I need to clarify - by saying no name other than Christ, I didn't mean individuals names. (maybe you'll be Jo Christ - LOL)

And perhaps it's useful to get closer to the Greek word that got erroneously translated as "church": ekklesia; meaning assembly or gathering . . . (i.e., "Go to those gathering in My Name in Boston")

Oh I see. In that case I already answered in saying that in that day there will only be one city and one high priest illuminating the entire city so no matter where we're placed we'll all be worshipping the lamb in one spirit and in one accord.

I think this type of complete fellowship that we'll partake in at the New Jerusalem is something all Christians deeply desire yet whenever we attempt to make this a reality in this life, it always ends up going sour and making things worse.

In this life we can worship God in spirit and truth which we are all individually responsible for doing. Until the day he returns, and that also becomes an outward reality, then we have to accept that no group has the complete vision because it's HIS vision. The rest of us only see in part like a mirror's dim reflection.

To say that you're a group that is in possession of Christ's vision, a vision only entrusted to him, and only you have the means to carry it out then in reality your making yourself out to be more blind then all the denomination that don't make such arrogant boasts.

We can be sure of only one thing, that Jesus is the Son of God and that he died and rose again. In that we can boast.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Jo S

Until the day he returns, and that also becomes an outward reality, then we have to accept that no group has the complete vision because it's HIS vision. The rest of us only see in part like a mirror's dim reflection.

To say that you're a group that is in possession of Christ's vision, a vision only entrusted to him, and only you have the means to carry it out then in reality your making yourself out to be more blind then all the denomination that don't make such arrogant boasts.

That is what I see too. While I think the group I've been meeting with enjoys a very good portion of Christ, we certainly don't have the market cornered! It will take the ENTIRE body of Christ to express Him, and that is the heavenly vision I see conveyed in several places in scripture. It is the height of hubris to think we have seen something so lofty, which knowledge then causes us not to completely embrace our fellow believers without reservation. Lord save us from such folly!

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

That is what I see too. While I think the group I've been meeting with enjoys a very good portion of Christ, we certainly don't have the market cornered! It will take the ENTIRE body of Christ to express Him, and that is the heavenly vision I see conveyed in several places in scripture. It is the height of hubris to think we have seen something so lofty, which knowledge then causes us not to completely embrace our fellow believers without reservation. Lord save us from such folly!

It's wonderful to want to fellowship with other Christians from various backgrounds. However I see a lot of ex-members swinging from the ultra exclusivist mindset taught in the LC's to an ultra liberal mentality toward fellowship after exiting. Christians do have to be careful and use discernment when choosing who to yoke with. This mostly hinges on your personal relationship with God.

So if a group does not bring the whole of the gospel taught in scripture or they teach another Jesus, we are commanded not to greet them or invite them into our houses (2 John 7:11).

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Talking about the idea itself, not what all was necessarily associated with it through WN & WL. For instance, in the Kingdom, will there be any names the Lord's people will be known by other than Christ and perhaps the area they would be living in? Will there be any other distinctions other than area or locality? Or will the Lord's people continue to call themselves by other names - Baptist, Methodist, LCer, non-denominational, etc.?

In other words, in the kingdom would the Lord say to someone, "Go and fellowship with my dear Presbyterian saints in Boston," or would He just refer to "My dear saints in Boston?"

In the Kingdom (as coming and not what is here now) there will be no cause for names other than those by which we are individually known.

In this pre-NJ part of the Kingdom, getting caught-up in the names is to major in minors. There is no "biblical mandate" for designations. Surely there is evidence of discord in the fact that we do not all see eye-to-eye on everything, but it has been noted many times over the years that we are one in Christ, not in doctrines, practices, or traditions. And it seems that the ones that specialize the most in getting the doctrines, practices, and traditions "right" are the ones that ignore the oneness in Christ the most.

[Nell]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Talking about the idea itself, not what all was necessarily associated with it through WN & WL. For instance, in the Kingdom, will there be any names the Lord's people will be known by other than Christ and perhaps the area they would be living in? Will there be any other distinctions other than area or locality? Or will the Lord's people continue to call themselves by other names - Baptist, Methodist, LCer, non-denominational, etc.?

In other words, in the kingdom would the Lord say to someone, "Go and fellowship with my dear Presbyterian saints in Boston," or would He just refer to "My dear saints in Boston?"

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