Is this a perverted word?

[ZNPaaneah]

I searched LSM to find references to Bill Mallon.

An article entitled “Being Realistic” was published in a periodical entitled The Word and the Testimony. The author of this article is John So, and the editors of the periodical are John Ingalls and Bill Mallon. This article insinuates that I am like the Japanese army when it invaded and occupied the Philippines in the Second World War. This implies that I invaded the church in Anaheim, taking it and possessing it in order to make it “the church of Witness Lee.” The article goes on to indicate that the meeting on Ball Road in Anaheim is no longer a local church, because it has lost its ground. According to this article, the ground of the church in Anaheim has become a person (Witness Lee) and his work and ministry, and it is now occupied by us, just as the site of the temple in Jerusalem is occupied today by the Muslims. Is this not a perverted word?

In another portion of this article, under the heading “The Nicolaitans,” I am categorized by innuendo as a Nicolaitan. In the way of innuendo, I am also likened to Balaam, who peddled the word of God in order to make money.

This article by John So also likens me to Jezebel, who called herself a prophetess and killed all the prophets of God, making herself the unique oracle of God. Is this not a perverted word that fulfills Acts 20:30? (Witness Lee, "The Present turmoil in the Lord's Recovery and the direction of the Lord's move today", chapter 1, section 3.)

Now I don't have John So's article, but on this forum I have likened WL to Balaam, I have compared the situation to Jezebel, and the complaint that the true ground of the Local church is the ministry of WL has been made numerous times. Therefore this quote from WL could definitely be directed at this forum and as a result I thought it might be reasonable that since he asked, we can respond.

Acts 20:30 and from among your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.

Perverse things is a reference to Num 22:32 And the angel of Jehovah said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I am come forth for an adversary, because thy way is perverse before me:. Balaam's way was "perverse".

In general perverse is to devise evil and sow discord.

Proverbs 6:14 In whose heart is perverseness, Who deviseth evil continually, Who soweth discord.

[ZNPaaneah]

For this critique of Witness Lee's practice and teaching to be a fulfillment of Acts 20:30 requires that John So, Bill Mallon and John Ingalls spoke these things to draw away disciples after themselves. Now that both John Ingalls and Bill Mallon are dead we can accurately judge if that was in fact what they were doing. If they did not do that we can fairly judge that the answer to WL's question: Is this not a perverted word that fulfills Acts 20:30? is no, it is not.

[Cal]

Any teaching that talks about holding the local ground or losing the local ground is totally out in the weeds. Who decides on these rules, anyway?

It's all a bunch of mumbo jumbo nonsense. "You had the local ground, but now you lost the local ground." "But wait, I have it back, because of this... or that... which I just made up!"

It's like they are playing Dungeons and Dragons...

Player 1: "I hold the Supreme Wizard card, therefore your teleportation powers are neutralized!"

Player 2: "Ho, ho! But I have the Flying Pig card, which disempowers your Supreme Wizard card! Therefore I can teleport!"

Player 1: "But no! Because the Flying Pig stopping the Supreme Wizard requires that you also hold the double bonus card, which you don't have!"

Player 2: "But I do have a time travel card, which allows me one free time reset--which I will now use to reverse my playing my double bonus card three turns ago. So I will still have it! Hah!"

And on and on, ad vomitus.

Wake up, people!

[byHismercy]

It is all so creepily distorted from the truth. The truth is that the body is Christs', the church is Christs', the building is Christs' as the rightful Builder, the work is and was Christs', completed on the cross, the faith given to us is Christs', and on and on. But the LC has this goofy, displaced tug of war going on with ????? Who? Everybody or nobody? for possession of The Church. As if they could claim rightful ownership or headship over what is Christs' to head up. The more I see, the less I understand this power struggle.....it is as if they want to be able to say which of the saints gets to inherit the Lord, which are to be disinherited. Such an awesome position of responsibility was picked up by this ministry, and such terrible abuse of the faithful who get caught up in it. I praise Lord Jesus. He was merciful to let me see the reality of the WL sect, He released me when an attempt was made to bring me into the LC bondage. He is so trustworthy, brothers and sisters......

byHismercy

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

It is all so creepily distorted from the truth. The truth is that the body is Christs', the church is Christs', the building is Christs' as the rightful Builder, the work is and was Christs', completed on the cross, the faith given to us is Christs', and on and on.

Anything that distorts from that view at the very least has the appearance of evil. It has the appearance of denying the Lord who redeemed us.

The one trumpet, the one publication, the idea that the vision of the age is with one man, the MOTA, these things all have the appearance at the very least, of denying the Lord.

[ZNPaaneah]

He can't be claiming it is a perverted word to apply this to others because that is what he did.

How is it that Christianity today has become such a dreadful religion? Just because of the matter of money, the teaching of Balaam.

Inevitably following the teaching of Balaam is the teaching of the Nicolaitans. (WL, Christ versus Religion, chapter 12, section 3)

Nor can be perverted to quote Peter, Jude, John and Paul on this matter. The word of God is pure, a light to our path.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

It is all so creepily distorted from the truth. The truth is that the body is Christs', the church is Christs', the building is Christs' as the rightful Builder, the work is and was Christs', completed on the cross, the faith given to us is Christs', and on and on. But the LC has this goofy, displaced tug of war going on with ????? Who? Everybody or nobody? for possession of The Church. As if they could claim rightful ownership or headship over what is Christs' to head up. The more I see, the less I understand this power struggle.....it is as if they want to be able to say which of the saints gets to inherit the Lord, which are to be disinherited. Such an awesome position of responsibility was picked up by this ministry, and such terrible abuse of the faithful who get caught up in it. I praise Lord Jesus. He was merciful to let me see the reality of the WL sect, He released me when an attempt was made to bring me into the LC bondage. He is so trustworthy, brothers and sisters......

byHismercy

I couldn’t agree more. Amen and amen!

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

The more I see, the less I understand this power struggle.....it is as if they want to be able to say which of the saints gets to inherit the Lord, which are to be disinherited. Such an awesome position of responsibility was picked up by this ministry, and such terrible abuse of the faithful who get caught up in it.
byHismercy

Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me: 6 but whoso shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it is profitable for him that a great millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depth of the sea.