How to rescue those still in LCs in Korea?

[Gubei]

Hi brothers and sisters,

I'm a mid-aged Korean brother who used to post here about 10 years ago (mostly criticizing LC practices). I started my LC life in Seoul about 30 years ago when I was a college student, and was one of leading young brothers among college students. I kept serving my Lord with secular job, but I'd witnessed a lot of negative things happening in the LCs in Korea, and finally stopped my LC life due to a very weird incident that I think was from my Lord about 6 years ago. I've just enjoyed reading the Bible, praying etc alone only with my family since then. (Quite oddly there have been almost no concerned brothers who tried to recover me. )

Recently, several old acquaintances in the LCs who were in the position of leadership abruptly began to contact me for various reasons, and I found the situation of the LCs in Korea have gone from bad to worse, with serious leadership chaos and without the Lord's blessing, proven by the fact that the # of meeting attendants keep decreasing.

Currently, I'm curious whether there is any good way to rescue some brothers and sisters who I guess by now feel bad for the LCs unreasonable and unbiblical practice. Of course I know if I try in a naive way then I will end up with no fruits and only with all the bad labeling like rebellion etc.

[Indiana]

Hi Gubei, could you possibly begin to visit a couple that you think is not meeting any longer and try to build up relationship with them and have prayer and fellowship together? More and more understanding might come forth. I just wonder about this to begin with.

It seems you could be an edifying factor to them and also to others. Maybe staying in contact here would also be good.

[least]

I agree with what Indiana said for Gubei's current situation.

Gubei, what was the weird incident you mentioned?

"I'd witnessed a lot of negative things happening in the LCs in Korea, and finally stopped my LC life due to a very weird incident that I think was from my Lord about 6 years ago." by Gubei.

God bless,
from least in this forum.

[Gubei]

Originally Posted by least

I agree with what Indiana said for Gubei's current situation.

Gubei, what was the weird incident you mentioned?

"I'd witnessed a lot of negative things happening in the LCs in Korea, and finally stopped my LC life due to a very weird incident that I think was from my Lord about 6 years ago." by Gubei.

God bless,
from least in this forum.

Thanks, least.

I PMed you on the weird incident.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Gubei

I'm a mid-aged Korean brother who used to post here about 10 years ago.. I started my LC life in Seoul about 30 years ago when I was a college student, and was one of leading young brothers among college students. I kept serving my Lord with secular job, but I'd witnessed a lot of negative things happening in the LCs in Korea, and finally stopped my LC life due to a very weird incident that I think was from my Lord about 6 years ago. I've just enjoyed reading the Bible, praying only with my family since then.

Recently.. I found the situation of the LCs in Korea have gone from bad to worse, with serious leadership chaos and without the Lord's blessing, proven by the fact that the # of meeting attendants keep decreasing.. is any good way to rescue some brothers and sisters who I guess by now feel bad for the LCs unreasonable and unbiblical practice..

My advice would be: first, you can only minister what you have. They already know the condition of the LC; what are you going to present them as an alternative? One of the worst things the LC leadership did was quench the seeking spirit. The “church life” and the “ministry” were supposedly one-stop shopping; or “all-inclusive”.

Jesus taught, “Seek and ye shall find”; that has never been more important than today. LC leaders convinced the saints, “There is nothing out there” for them. So even if the current status is poor, they are kept in immobility, and passivity. You need to present them with a fresh breeze of the Spirit of God.

So if you're desperately seeking Him with your whole heart/soul/strength, then you have his promise that the finding will follow. The LC song, “We have ended our search” was a dead-end. Literally.

O home in the church,
Where we’ve ended our search
With the brothers rejoicing all day;
Where Christ is our life,
And we’re through with all strife,
Now we’re home, hallelujah, to stay!

Home, home in the church;
Yes, it’s here that we’ve ended our search;
And through all our days
We will shout to His praise,
“Hallelujah for Christ and the church!”

The Christian life is a seeking life. Don’t quit till it’s over.

Second, and related, you have a specific role to play in God’s kingdom. You alone are ‘you’. There is no other. In God’s wisdom, you have a job to do. Minister to others, LC and not, in the sphere of that specific job. “Do business until I come”; only you can do the ‘business’ in your hands.

[Gubei]

Originally Posted by aron

My advice would be: first, you can only minister what you have. They already know the condition of the LC; what are you going to present them as an alternative? One of the worst things the LC leadership did was quench the seeking spirit. The “church life” and the “ministry” were supposedly one-stop shopping; or “all-inclusive”.

Jesus taught, “Seek and ye shall find”; that has never been more important than today. LC leaders convinced the saints, “There is nothing out there” for them. So even if the current status is poor, they are kept in immobility, and passivity. You need to present them with a fresh breeze of the Spirit of God.

So if you're desperately seeking Him with your whole heart/soul/strength, then you have his promise that the finding will follow. The LC song, “We have ended our search” was a dead-end. Literally.

The Christian life is a seeking life. Don’t quit till it’s over.

Second, and related, you have a specific role to play in God’s kingdom. You alone are ‘you’. There is no other. In God’s wisdom, you have a job to do. Minister to others, LC and not, in the sphere of that specific job. “Do business until I come”; only you can do the ‘business’ in your hands.

Thanks, Aron

I totally agree with you. Me myself has been enjoying our Lord apart from the LC life, which is naturally possible for my brothers and sisters still in the LC but I'm afraid they would not venture to go far enough away from the LC.

My "strategy" to rescue some, which I am not sure is my new burden from the Lord, is translating good English materials into Korean for free distribution to them.

Can you pop up any good stuff for me to translate? It's impossible to translate this forum from A to Z. So, I need brief but powerful ones.

[Gubei]

Originally Posted by Indiana

Hi Gubei, could you possibly begin to visit a couple that you think is not meeting any longer and try to build up relationship with them and have prayer and fellowship together? More and more understanding might come forth. I just wonder about this to begin with.

It seems you could be an edifying factor to them and also to others. Maybe staying in contact here would also be good.

Thanks, Indiana. will do as you suggested!

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Gubei

Currently, I'm curious whether there is any good way to rescue some brothers and sisters who I guess by now feel bad for the LCs unreasonable and unbiblical practice. Of course I know if I try in a naive way then I will end up with no fruits and only with all the bad labeling like rebellion etc.

The blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony.

I heard one man share his testimony and he said that when stuff happens to you, let's say your impression is that it is a bad experience. It is like a rock falling on you. If you stay quiet you leave that rock sitting on top of you. But when you share your experience you begin to crawl out from under that rock and eventually you can stand on it.

If other christians have never experienced what we experienced in the LC then they cannot spot the warning signs, they cannot feel the same significance over certain verses, and they cannot respond to the heresies with the Lord's word like we can. I believe the body of Christ is better off because of our testimony.