"The Matter of Gaining African-Americans"

Koinonia · 02-05-2017, 07:02 PM

April 13, 2016

Dear saints,

In fellowship with the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery, we invite the saints in the churches to join us for a conference on the weekend of May 6-8, 2016 in New York City. The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations (Matt. 24:14), with a view to gaining African-Americans and those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony. The saints who are African-American or of African descent are especially encouraged to attend and bring their friends, relatives, and colleagues with them to this time. All saints are invited to come, but the saints who are African-American and of African descent are especially needed in order for this burden to be carried out well in contacting, shepherding, and building up the new ones that we meet in the coming days.

The matter of gaining African-Americans has been a burden with a number of saints and co-workers for many years and has led to much prayer and fellowship. In fellowship with the co-workers, we felt the Lord’s leading to take this step of coming together for a conference to fellowship this burden and to labor within
the African and African-American communities. Though it seems that this burden is a matter of race, in fact, it is a matter of ratio. The current number of saints of African descent meeting in the churches in the Lord’s recovery in North America is very low, when compared to the number in the general population. Our burden is
to find a way to contact, labor among, and gain people of African descent both from the college campuses and from the community at large. This labor would include contacting students at those universities which have been historically Black (HBCU’s) or African-American in composition. We pray that the Lord would also gain families from these communities throughout the United States and Canada for His Body.

In the conference in Houston on the Labor Day weekend of September 2015, four matters were initiated: 1) gathering the saints who have a burden in this direction for prayer, coordination, and fellowship, 2) preaching the gospel of the kingdom to the nations, 3) being refreshed in the vision of Christ and the church, and 4) being encouraged in the practice of the God-ordained way. In the upcoming conference in New York, we will continue with these four matters, praying that the Lord would take a further step in gaining this group of people for His move and ultimate goal in this age—the building up of the Body of Christ, consummating in the New Jerusalem.

The conference schedule will be as follows: Friday, May 6, at 7:30 PM and Saturday, May 7 at 10 AM & 7:30 PM at P.S. 369 located at 387 State Street, Brooklyn, NY 11217; Lord’s Day, May 8, at 10 AM at the Jamaica Estates (Queens) hall of the church in New York City located at 87-60 Chevy Chase Street, Jamaica Estates, NY 11432. Detailed information regarding transportation, the availability of hospitality and hotel information will be included in a follow-up letter in a few days. All inquiries regarding this conference can be addressed to churchinnyc@gmail.com.

Please feel free to pass this notice on to any saints who would be burdened with this matter.

In His recovery,

Ricky Acosta, Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Steve Watts, Willie Wise

Koinonia · 02-05-2017, 07:17 PM

August 10, 2016

To: The churches in the Lord’s Recovery
Re: Labor Day Conference 2016—Houston, TX

Dear brothers,

We are happy to announce that a Labor Day Conference will be held in Houston, TX on September 2 through September 4, 2016. We would like to invite the brothers and sisters from many places to gather for this time of fellowship. We thank the Lord for His present speaking to the churches, and pray that He will use this conference to build up His Body, prepare His bride, and bring in the kingdom. The subject of the conference is “Four Great Emphases in the Lord’s Recovery for Carrying Out God’s Divine Economy” with a specific focus being to gain African-American and African peoples for the Lord’s testimony. We hope that many of the saints who are African-American or who are of African descent would come together for this fellowship. We also hope that any who are burdened by the Lord for this group of people would join us in the conference.

LOCATION: 6357 Windswept Lane, Houston, TX 77057

SCHEDULE: September 2, 2016
7:30pm, Message 1, Group Session, Corporate Sharing

September 3, 2016
9:00am, Message 2, Group Session, Corporate Sharing
12:00pm, Lunch Provided
5:30pm, Dinner Provided
7:00pm, Message 3, Group Session, Corporate Sharing

September 4, 2016
9:00am, The Lord’s Table
11:00am, Group Presentations and Overflow
12:00pm, Love Feast (conclusion to conference)

REGISTRATION: Registration is required by Monday, August 22, 2016, To register go to www.topstonebooks.com and click the “Register Now!” button at the top. You may also register via Email: register@topstonebooks.com

TRANSLATION: All meetings will be translated into Chinese, Korean, and Spanish. Please bring your own FM radio/headset.

CHILDCARE: Childcare will be provided for grades K through 6th during all meetings. Space will be provided for mothers to care for toddlers and babies.

EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR COMMUNICATIONS OR QUESTIONS:
Carlos Guttierez: carlos@topstonebooks.com
Neal Kader: neal@topstonebooks.com

May the Lord fulfill His word in Matthew 16:18: “And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.”

In His recovery,

Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Bill Salassi, Steve Watts , Willie Wise

Koinonia · 02-06-2017, 11:03 AM

Gospel Conference in Atlanta, Georgia

In fellowship with the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery, all the saints are invited to attend a conference in Atlanta, Georgia on the weekend of May 5-7, 2017.

The general subject of the conference is “Living in the Reality of the Kingdom.” The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations, with particular attention to those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony of one new man.

Since this is a move of the Body under the direction of the Head, Christ, much prayer is needed by all the saints.

UntoHim · 02-06-2017, 07:14 PM

The following was a paper written by Nigel Tomes and published on the ConcernedBrothers.Com website in 2006.

BLACK SLAVERY AS ‘THE CURSE OF HAM’—
Bible Truth, Jewish Myth or Racist Apologetic?
“And Noah said ‘Cursed be Canaan! A slave of slaves, a slave to his brothers!
Blessed be God, the God of Shem, but Canaan shall be his slave.
God prosper Japheth…But Canaan shall be his slave’.” (Gen., 9:25-27 Message)

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Freedom · 02-07-2017, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NigelTomes

The following was a paper written by Nigel Tomes and published on the ConcernedBrothers.Com website in 2006.

BLACK SLAVERY AS ‘THE CURSE OF HAM’—
Bible Truth, Jewish Myth or Racist Apologetic?
“And Noah said ‘Cursed be Canaan! A slave of slaves, a slave to his brothers!
Blessed be God, the God of Shem, but Canaan shall be his slave.
God prosper Japheth…But Canaan shall be his slave’.” (Gen., 9:25-27 Message)

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I remember reading this paper a while back, and I was shocked to discover that WL taught this. What I was even more bothered about was to realize that I had read the LS of Genesis before and never given such talk any kind of thought.

I don't know of statements like these have really have any effect on any demographic ratios in the LC, but they certainly wouldn't help things any. Such statements made by Lee demand a retraction, yet LSM continues to publish it without a second thought.

Koinonia · 05-15-2017, 06:37 AM

We invite the brothers and sisters in the churches to join us for a conference on the weekend of May 5-7, 2017 in Atlanta, Georgia. The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations with a view to gaining African-Americans and those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony.

Matthew 24:14 – And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole inhabited earth for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

All saints are invited to come, but the saints in the churches who are of African descent are especially needed to carry out the work of contacting, shepherding, and building up the new ones that we will meet in the coming days. Hence, the saints who are of African descent are specifically encouraged to come and to bring their friends, relatives, and colleagues with them.

The matter of gaining African Americans has been a burden with many saints and co-workers for many years, and it has led to much prayer and fellowship. Beginning in 2013 some brothers began to pray more definitely for this burden. In the spring of 2015 a conference was held in Houston to fellowship this burden and to labor on the gospel for this beloved community of people. A second conference followed in New York City in May 2016 and a third in September of 2016 in Houston. The encouragement of the saints expressed through their testimonies after these gatherings confirmed that this was surely something under the Lord’s blessing.

Because this burden for the gospel is a move of the Body of Christ under the direction of the Head, Christ, all the saints are needed to pray and participate, regardless of ethnicity. Although it may seem that this burden is a matter of race, in fact, it is a matter of the ratio of African Americans currently meeting in the churches in North America (less than 1%) compared to the general population of African Americans in the United States of America (approximately 12.6%).

Our burden is to find a way to contact, labor among, and gain people of African descent both from the college campuses and from the community at large. We pray that the Lord would gain families from these communities throughout the United States and Canada for the expression of His Body, the preparation of the bride of Christ, and the advancement of the kingdom of God.

The general subject of the upcoming conference in Atlanta will be “Living in the Reality of the Kingdom of God” We pray that these messages will be a help to the saints and new believers to enjoy Christ as the reality of the kingdom.

The conference schedule will be as follows: Friday, May 5, at 7:30 PM; Saturday, May 6, at 10:00 AM & 7:30 PM; and Lord’s Day, May 7, at 10 AM. All conference meetings will be held at the meeting hall of the church in Atlanta, located at 2345 Shallowford Road, Atlanta, GA 30345. Detailed information regarding transportation, the availability of hospitality and hotel information will be included in a follow-up letter in a few days. All inquiries regarding this conference can be addressed to: churchinatlanta@gmail.com.

Please feel free to pass this notice on to any saints who would be burdened with this matter.

In His recovery,
Ricky Acosta, Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Steve Watts, Willie Wise

***For further general info and email subscription, click here.
***For Conference registration, hospitality request, maps, transportation info, and schedule, click here.

Ohio · 08-06-2017, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NigelTomes

The following was a paper written by Nigel Tomes and published on the ConcernedBrothers.Com website in 2006.

BLACK SLAVERY AS ‘THE CURSE OF HAM’—
Bible Truth, Jewish Myth or Racist Apologetic?
“And Noah said ‘Cursed be Canaan! A slave of slaves, a slave to his brothers!
Blessed be God, the God of Shem, but Canaan shall be his slave.
God prosper Japheth…But Canaan shall be his slave’.” (Gen., 9:25-27 Message)

------------------------------

Nigel Tomes' article here on Black Slavery was so "hot" when it came out, that even the Concerned Brothers in the GLA didn't want to be associated with it.

Remember that simple paradigm that they had been operating under for many years under Titus Chu's leadership -- "Witness Lee good, Blended Brothers bad."

They were not ready to accept any part of "Witness Lee bad." So the Concerned Brothers website added a remote section, like our Alt-Views forum for these controversial writings.

awareness · 08-07-2017, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio

Nigel Tomes' article here on Black Slavery was so "hot" when it came out, that even the Concerned Brothers in the GLA didn't want to be associated with it.

Remember that simple paradigm that they had been operating under for many years under Titus Chu's leadership -- "Witness Lee good, Blended Brothers bad."

They were not ready to accept any part of "Witness Lee bad." So the Concerned Brothers website added a remote section, like our Alt-Views forum for these controversial writings.

Witness Lee was an idiot just like one of my Baptist cousins here in Kentucky, who said at a family gathering that America was being cursed by God because it is not following God's law concerning the curse on Ham that, blacks should be slaves.

And in the narrative, God does not curse Canaan. Only Noah does it. Which means nothing really ... except to the Jews against the Canaanites.

The most likely explanation of the curse on Canaan is that it was written by Jews to justify the Hebrews taking the land from the Canaanites.

Witness Lee was obviously a racist ... just like my cousin, that doesn't even try to hide his racism.

02-05-2017, 07:02 PM	#1
Koinonia Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 524	"The Matter of Gaining African-Americans" April 13, 2016 Dear saints, In fellowship with the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery, we invite the saints in the churches to join us for a conference on the weekend of May 6-8, 2016 in New York City. The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations (Matt. 24:14), with a view to gaining African-Americans and those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony. The saints who are African-American or of African descent are especially encouraged to attend and bring their friends, relatives, and colleagues with them to this time. All saints are invited to come, but the saints who are African-American and of African descent are especially needed in order for this burden to be carried out well in contacting, shepherding, and building up the new ones that we meet in the coming days. The matter of gaining African-Americans has been a burden with a number of saints and co-workers for many years and has led to much prayer and fellowship. In fellowship with the co-workers, we felt the Lord’s leading to take this step of coming together for a conference to fellowship this burden and to labor within the African and African-American communities. Though it seems that this burden is a matter of race, in fact, it is a matter of ratio. The current number of saints of African descent meeting in the churches in the Lord’s recovery in North America is very low, when compared to the number in the general population. Our burden is to find a way to contact, labor among, and gain people of African descent both from the college campuses and from the community at large. This labor would include contacting students at those universities which have been historically Black (HBCU’s) or African-American in composition. We pray that the Lord would also gain families from these communities throughout the United States and Canada for His Body. In the conference in Houston on the Labor Day weekend of September 2015, four matters were initiated: 1) gathering the saints who have a burden in this direction for prayer, coordination, and fellowship, 2) preaching the gospel of the kingdom to the nations, 3) being refreshed in the vision of Christ and the church, and 4) being encouraged in the practice of the God-ordained way. In the upcoming conference in New York, we will continue with these four matters, praying that the Lord would take a further step in gaining this group of people for His move and ultimate goal in this age—the building up of the Body of Christ, consummating in the New Jerusalem. The conference schedule will be as follows: Friday, May 6, at 7:30 PM and Saturday, May 7 at 10 AM & 7:30 PM at P.S. 369 located at 387 State Street, Brooklyn, NY 11217; Lord’s Day, May 8, at 10 AM at the Jamaica Estates (Queens) hall of the church in New York City located at 87-60 Chevy Chase Street, Jamaica Estates, NY 11432. Detailed information regarding transportation, the availability of hospitality and hotel information will be included in a follow-up letter in a few days. All inquiries regarding this conference can be addressed to churchinnyc@gmail.com. Please feel free to pass this notice on to any saints who would be burdened with this matter. In His recovery, Ricky Acosta, Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Steve Watts, Willie Wise

02-05-2017, 07:17 PM	#2
Koinonia Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 524	Re: "The Matter of Gaining African-Americans" August 10, 2016 To: The churches in the Lord’s Recovery Re: Labor Day Conference 2016—Houston, TX Dear brothers, We are happy to announce that a Labor Day Conference will be held in Houston, TX on September 2 through September 4, 2016. We would like to invite the brothers and sisters from many places to gather for this time of fellowship. We thank the Lord for His present speaking to the churches, and pray that He will use this conference to build up His Body, prepare His bride, and bring in the kingdom. The subject of the conference is “Four Great Emphases in the Lord’s Recovery for Carrying Out God’s Divine Economy” with a specific focus being to gain African-American and African peoples for the Lord’s testimony. We hope that many of the saints who are African-American or who are of African descent would come together for this fellowship. We also hope that any who are burdened by the Lord for this group of people would join us in the conference. LOCATION: 6357 Windswept Lane, Houston, TX 77057 SCHEDULE: September 2, 2016 7:30pm, Message 1, Group Session, Corporate Sharing September 3, 2016 9:00am, Message 2, Group Session, Corporate Sharing 12:00pm, Lunch Provided 5:30pm, Dinner Provided 7:00pm, Message 3, Group Session, Corporate Sharing September 4, 2016 9:00am, The Lord’s Table 11:00am, Group Presentations and Overflow 12:00pm, Love Feast (conclusion to conference) REGISTRATION: Registration is required by Monday, August 22, 2016, To register go to www.topstonebooks.com and click the “Register Now!” button at the top. You may also register via Email: register@topstonebooks.com TRANSLATION: All meetings will be translated into Chinese, Korean, and Spanish. Please bring your own FM radio/headset. CHILDCARE: Childcare will be provided for grades K through 6th during all meetings. Space will be provided for mothers to care for toddlers and babies. EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR COMMUNICATIONS OR QUESTIONS: Carlos Guttierez: carlos@topstonebooks.com Neal Kader: neal@topstonebooks.com May the Lord fulfill His word in Matthew 16:18: “And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” In His recovery, Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Bill Salassi, Steve Watts , Willie Wise

02-06-2017, 11:03 AM	#3
Koinonia Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 524	Re: "The Matter of Gaining African-Americans" Gospel Conference in Atlanta, Georgia In fellowship with the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery, all the saints are invited to attend a conference in Atlanta, Georgia on the weekend of May 5-7, 2017. The general subject of the conference is “Living in the Reality of the Kingdom.” The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations, with particular attention to those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony of one new man. Since this is a move of the Body under the direction of the Head, Christ, much prayer is needed by all the saints.

02-06-2017, 07:14 PM	#4
UntoHim Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,824	Re: "The Matter of Gaining African-Americans" The following was a paper written by Nigel Tomes and published on the ConcernedBrothers.Com website in 2006. BLACK SLAVERY AS ‘THE CURSE OF HAM’— Bible Truth, Jewish Myth or Racist Apologetic? “And Noah said ‘Cursed be Canaan! A slave of slaves, a slave to his brothers! Blessed be God, the God of Shem, but Canaan shall be his slave. God prosper Japheth…But Canaan shall be his slave’.” (Gen., 9:25-27 Message) ------------------------------ __________________ αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11

05-15-2017, 06:37 AM	#6
Koinonia Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 524	Re: "The Matter of Gaining African-Americans" We invite the brothers and sisters in the churches to join us for a conference on the weekend of May 5-7, 2017 in Atlanta, Georgia. The burden of the conference is the gospel to all the nations with a view to gaining African-Americans and those of African descent for the Lord’s testimony. Matthew 24:14 – And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole inhabited earth for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come. All saints are invited to come, but the saints in the churches who are of African descent are especially needed to carry out the work of contacting, shepherding, and building up the new ones that we will meet in the coming days. Hence, the saints who are of African descent are specifically encouraged to come and to bring their friends, relatives, and colleagues with them. The matter of gaining African Americans has been a burden with many saints and co-workers for many years, and it has led to much prayer and fellowship. Beginning in 2013 some brothers began to pray more definitely for this burden. In the spring of 2015 a conference was held in Houston to fellowship this burden and to labor on the gospel for this beloved community of people. A second conference followed in New York City in May 2016 and a third in September of 2016 in Houston. The encouragement of the saints expressed through their testimonies after these gatherings confirmed that this was surely something under the Lord’s blessing. Because this burden for the gospel is a move of the Body of Christ under the direction of the Head, Christ, all the saints are needed to pray and participate, regardless of ethnicity. Although it may seem that this burden is a matter of race, in fact, it is a matter of the ratio of African Americans currently meeting in the churches in North America (less than 1%) compared to the general population of African Americans in the United States of America (approximately 12.6%). Our burden is to find a way to contact, labor among, and gain people of African descent both from the college campuses and from the community at large. We pray that the Lord would gain families from these communities throughout the United States and Canada for the expression of His Body, the preparation of the bride of Christ, and the advancement of the kingdom of God. The general subject of the upcoming conference in Atlanta will be “Living in the Reality of the Kingdom of God” We pray that these messages will be a help to the saints and new believers to enjoy Christ as the reality of the kingdom. The conference schedule will be as follows: Friday, May 5, at 7:30 PM; Saturday, May 6, at 10:00 AM & 7:30 PM; and Lord’s Day, May 7, at 10 AM. All conference meetings will be held at the meeting hall of the church in Atlanta, located at 2345 Shallowford Road, Atlanta, GA 30345. Detailed information regarding transportation, the availability of hospitality and hotel information will be included in a follow-up letter in a few days. All inquiries regarding this conference can be addressed to: churchinatlanta@gmail.com. Please feel free to pass this notice on to any saints who would be burdened with this matter. In His recovery, Ricky Acosta, Allen Bayes, Scott Finnie, Clem Rogers, Steve Watts, Willie Wise *For further general info and email subscription, click here. *For Conference registration, hospitality request, maps, transportation info, and schedule, click here.

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