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Old 06-02-2018, 05:43 AM   #118
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Poor poor Christianity

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Bro Z, think about it. It's not that there aren't historical records on the sacking of Jerusalem & the temple. It was a very big deal ; a big war ; that the Romans won ; and the Jews lost ; and they don't have their temple to this day. .

So you'd think it would be remarked about in New Testament accounts. For instance, John was written 25 years after the sacking, surely the authors knew about it. So why isn't it written about at least in some detail?

Another instance : Matthew, the only gospel that mentions it, have the Jews saying, "his blood be on us and our children." Shouldn't Matthew have mentioned the sacking of the temple -- it meant that his blood was upon them -- that deserved at least some detailed account -- at least something clearly stated about it fulfilling Jesus' prophecy?

But okay, we can't expect the New Testament to be a historical type document. But still. The sacking of the temple and Jerusalem was a very big deal. And completely on topic to the story of Jesus.

Plus, it could have been stated clearly that it was the fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy. That it was the 'blood curse.' It wasn't. So we, including you, are left extrapolating.

Don't you think? If not, I guess I/we will now suffer a ton of your extrapolations ... in a long numbered list.
The New Testament does refer to it: Acts, Peter and James all refer to the scattering of the Jews. Revelation begins discussing John in exile. Hebrews talks about the physical temple as a type of the spiritual one. Paul talks about the Jews as a "branch that has been cut off" but could still be "grafted in". Matthew goes into very specific detail about what is going to happen. Revelation gives us very good detail about what happens at the end of the age. Both of these accounts tie nicely with OT Prophets.

Paul's ministry was not to the Jews but the gentiles, why should he talk about it other than his calling for an offering to bring to the saints in Jerusalem?

James and Peter are not interested in preserving the Jewish religion, their interest is in ministering to the suffering saints who are of the circumcision.

What do you want them to say "ha, ha, we were right!" Do you even know what spirit you are?
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