[Drake]

"You are so biased and prejudiced against Jane that you can't carry on a rational discussion about what Jane actually said without twisting and perverting it into something she didn't say."

No objective reader can claim Evangelical is not carrying on a rational discussion. It is, if nothing else, rational through and through. That Is exactly what is bothering people the most. Folks may not like his interpretation of what Jane said, but it is a rational presentation on his part.

Nell, your friendship and care for Jane is commendable but your last post is the epitome of irrational conversation. Your explanation of "seems evident" is about as weak a defense one could present. Actually, it seems evident that what Jane meant by "it seems evident" is that a most plausible explanation is being advanced and one that is pretty darn close to definitive in her mind. Otherwise, she wouldn't say it seems evident, because it would not seem evident at all.

For instance, when some people say something like "it seems evident that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians" they mean to convey something much more definitive along the line that he did and not that it opens the door to a possibility that he did.

It is a glaring example of the irrational defense oft repeated throughout your last post. I'm really not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, yours or Jane's, but that is how I saw it.

Drake