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Originally Posted by Igzy
These guys who go back after years never overcame that conditioning. They got institutionalized. They never developed their own faith in God.
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I've seen this, and know a brother in Miami that this would apply to; who said: "I don't want to know anything negative, even if it's true."
But it wouldn't fit Hosepipe, of Elden Hall fame. Because of his time in Elden he knew what a Spirit led meeting was.
He was one of the three bros (I being one) that got excommunicated by Mel Porter in the C. in Ft. Lauderdale. But he had already walked away, telling me that there was no Holy Spirit in the meetings.
But after a few years God started bugging him to go back, he told me. Hosepipe said no. God said yes. Hose said no, God said yes. Hose said no. So forth and so on, until Hosepipe relented.
When he went back he had to face the elders, who said he could come to meetings but couldn't speak.
After a few months of silence, you know how brothers get, one of them troubled by Hosepipe's lack of joining in, started openly bugging him to testify. He looked at the elders and they shook their heads yes.
That was the beginning of the end for the C. in Ft. Lauderdale.
Eventually Hoser called them all into deciding who they were going to follow, the Holy Spirit or Witness Lee ; God or Lee? The meeting exploded with anger and fists, and almost broke out into a fight.
After that meeting the Lee loyalists went and declared the ground in Boca Raton. While the non-Lee loyalists stayed in Ft. Lauderdale.
And now, there is no C. in Ft. Lauderdale, and the C. in Boca, after 30 yrs, hasn't grown from the 40 members that started it.
And Hosepipe declares that God sent him back as a prophet.
Following God causes havoc to human institutions.