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Old 05-02-2014, 05:53 AM   #94
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Default Re: My Views and Stance on The Recovery

Originally Posted by Truth View Post
1) [/B]I sense that there is not much blessing from the Holy Spirit on the LC as a whole (I'm not talking about individuals in the LC). I need to be in a new place where I can receive new speaking and new revelation.
2) The LC is full of hypocrisy as an organization: the double standards trouble me tremendously.
3) I don't want my children to grow up in this kind of environment
In my humble opinion, the problem with the LC is that it’s not a Christian church. It’s rather Witness Lee Study Group or Witness Lee’s Works Fan Club that practice some forms of worship. As a member of the “study group”, an average LCer lives a life in Lee and his writings, not a life in Christ. (When I say this, I am talking about myself and my spiritual life in the LC, too).

LCers neglect personal spirituality claiming that God doesn’t want spiritual giants. But they forget that Christian spirituality is life in Christ, in and with the Holy Spirit, a life of commitment to the Lord, and a complete submission to His will. Spiritual growth doesn’t mean submitting ourselves to the Lord’s Recovery Church and her doctrines. It means submitting ourselves to Christ. We don’t become spiritual or even so called “overcomers” because we go to the church. We become spiritual when we give more room to the Lord; when we struggle against our sins; when we perfect ourselves in Christ, by the cleansing of passions and the winning of the virtues; when we live a Christ-like life and acquire the Holy Spirit.

A true spiritual man has the energy of the Holy Spirit within. Living in Christ, he becomes a new man, regenerated by the grace of God. It is not an abstract, emotional and psychological state of being. It is man's union with God.

So the mystical union in Christian spirituality is not the "devout church life" but the communion of the person with God. In other words, the goal of spirituality is the perfection of the believer by his/her union with God in Christ. That's the difference between a Christian church and the “WL Bible Study Group.” In the LRC, spirituality means being in one accord, a union of a devout follower with the church and other saints first. Union with the Lord comes second. While true Christian spirituality is union with Christ, with God, first of all.

We can always spot a spiritual person because he purifies himself of all worldly and moral defects in order to be united with the love of Christ. As result, he possesses the fruit of the Holy Spirit. And "... the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23 I have not met many spiritual people in the LRC. Mostly -- sweet, sincere, and knowledgeable. But what about acquiring the Holy Spirit?

The LRC is lack of union with God. Therefore, they are lack of the Holy Spirit. I feel the same lack when I look at myself. Every time I have to drag myself to the LC prayer meetings on Tuesdays. To me, it's just a waste of time. I don't know about other localities, but in mine, it's a group of nice, sweet, and friendly saints who scream, shout, and chant for almost one hour. I agree with Carol who once called this practice a "vain repetition." God is omnipresent. He is here with us all the time. Why do we need to shout as if He is hiding a few blocks away? Why do we need to chant in such a strong voice and an imperious tone? That's not how we talk to our parents. So why do we talk to the Lord this way? The LRC is full of sweetness but lack of reverence. We don't pray reverently. We don't have reverence and humility when we worship God. But we are full of authority. We can't hear God's answers because we are more interested in our petitions. Our voice seems to be more important. We don't feel God's presence because it's not our aim. Yes, we want to “touch the Lord” but why screaming and shouting with an imperious tone? I don’t think it helps. The goal of prayer is not to submit Him our requests. God already knows all our needs. The true goal of prayer is to contact the Lord, "plug" us in Him, and have union with Him. Two or three years ago we studied a WL’s article about prayer of authority. You can find it here:

WL: “All prayers in ascension are prayers of authority. We know that prayer in ascension is a command to God. Our prayer is not begging but commanding. You all remember that in Isaiah 45:11, God says, “Command ye me.” Sometimes this commanding is a direct command to God, and sometimes it is an indirect command to the environment.”

Witness Lee not only speaks mambo jumbo but twists the word of God, whether using an old translation or not being able to translate the Old Greek properly. In Isaiah 45:11, God never says, “Command ye me.” God says

“This is what the Lord says—
the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker:
Concerning things to come,
do you question me about my children,
or give me orders about the work of my hands?

Check Isaiah 45:9

“Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker,
those who are nothing but potsherds
among the potsherds on the ground.
Does the clay say to the potter,
‘What are you making?’
Does your work say,
‘The potter has no hands’?

We are clay and God is our potter. So if the clay starts to give orders to the potter than it ends up with
Originally Posted by countmeworthy View Post
No Love, No Anointing, No Blessing.
...No Holy Spirit, and No man's union with God.

May the Lord have mercy on us.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
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