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Originally Posted by UntoHim

To my friend Boxjobox

You keep insisting that we ignore 2,000+ years of church history. No church fathers. No councils. No creeds. No statements of faith. No nothing! We only have to go by the actual words that have been recorded in the biblical canon (accept for that pesky Gospel of John which you would like to disappear-)

Ok, let's go back to early first century in Jerusalem. No New Testament. No Messiah. No Gospel. No apostles. No apostle Paul. No councils. No creeds. No nothing.

And up walks this obscure Jewish Rabbi from some obscure, insignificant northern hamlet called Nazareth.

And he tells a group of Jewish people that "something greater than the temple is here". To the Jews at that time, and in that place, GOD, and ONLY GOD was greater than the temple.

Not satisfied? At that time, and in that place (Jerusalem) who was the only Being in the universe that was "Lord of the Sabbath"? Quickly now, remember no Gospel, No apostles, No apostle Paul. No councils. No creeds. No nothing. Who was the only Being who the Jews would consider to be the Lord of the Sabbath? To the Jews at that time, and in that place, God, and ONLY GOD was the Lord of the Sabbath.

There. Jesus clearly and strongly claimed to be God in Matthew, Mark and Luke. No apostles, no apostle Paul, no councils, no creeds...not even that pesky, misused and misunderstood, mysterious Gospel of John.
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And this is why the Jewish leaders plotted to kill Jesus. Not because He was a great man, a brilliant Rabbi, a miracle worker, a productive carpenter, neither an untrained Jew from Nazareth. They plotted to kill Jesus because He told them He was God!