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Old 06-23-2018, 09:02 PM   #8
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Default Re: Finally I decided to not join Full time training.

Originally Posted by aron View Post
Key words: "pressure" and "conform". . . here we see a spirit sent in to spy out our liberty in Christ Jesus, and to bring us into slavery again. cf Galatians 2:4
An emphasis on things other than Jesus the crucified and resurrected Lord and Savior isn't a necessary addition to our gospel and our faith but a distraction from it.

Teaching that's focused on the Body is a distraction from Christ. The Body exists only as much as it's focused on (connected to) its Head, which is Christ. No more and no less - as soon as it's consideration becomes Itself, the enemy comes in. The house-of-mirrors game begins. The Body quickly becomes Abomination and Desolation. The Fall re-asserts itself.

The Bride only should see the Husband; as soon as the Bride begins to regard Herself, "Here I sit a Queen" she's bound for Satan's Land of Delusion. See the Harlot in Revelation 17 - full of "High Peak" claims. Zero reality.

The Church begins to teach its members to "see the Church" instead of it's Shepherd and Savior, and the Church begins to decay. Note the RCC and Anglicans both used such ideational strongholds as fulcrums to leverage the lives and thoughts and purses of so many.

This supposed Recovery which promotes its own teachings and supposed High Peak Truths, is merely fronting an all-too-human ministry, which is a front for an all-too-human minister, who's fronting a fallen spirit that wants to spy out our liberty in Christ Jesus and bring us back into subjection again.

So we're duped to focus on "the ground" or "the oneness" instead of Jesus Christ, and what comes along with this? Ancillary teachings sprout like "one unique ministry per age" and "one deputy God" and "handing over". Comes with the territory (pun intended). And when the self-appointed Guru siphons off church funds for his own children, some of whom are arguably rather unspiritual, we'll shrug and say, "Hey, nobody's perfect." And when the promoted High Peak Teaching, say "God's Economy", necessitates panning scripture as fallen human concepts in order to cohere, or conversely sees the OT prophet typifying "NT believers enjoying Grace", while ignoring the clear NT exegetical precedent of the Obedient Son of Man restoring humanity, we have a big hole in the interpreted scripture where Jesus should be. Jesus should be our unwavering focus but He's nowhere in sight here - either "NT believers enjoying grace" or "merely David's mixed sentiments".

And we're supposed to conform to that?

Btw, I looked in the RecV and found the footnote in Revelation 1:20 saying the local assemblies have to be "absolutely identical" with "no differences whatever" . . what's it based on? The footnote says it's because the seven lampstands are "absolutely identical". Really? Where does scripture say that? Did you ever see a calyx? Or a pomegranite? Or nets of lilies? Do you think the two pillars Jachin and Boaz were "absolutely identical"? Or the twelve oxen holding Solomon's Sea of Bronze? Everything of life has variation. Did the Four Living Creatures look identical? Even, "star differs from star in glory". The only thing is, here on earth, when we Christians talk of differerentiation and variation, with the fall in Genesis 3 in mind, we'd wisely take the least place; Jesus taught this, repeatedly. But instead we see teachings come forth as props and levers for ones with ambition, eager to be Spiritual Giants, and to be First in the Church.

And we're supposed to be subject to this fiasco? To submit?

The Full Time Training is a trap made by those who want to be great in this age. The more people they can put under them, the better they feel about themselves. But they will not be great in the next age. Jesus made this abundantly clear - this is the way of the gentiles, not the Way to the kingdom of God. They'll get their biography read into the Congressional Record, they'll get a big Tombstone. They have their reward.

The Full Time Training says that the biblical truth is, Women Can't Teach. Yet this position ignores that the movement itself was founded by Margaret Barber teaching Watchman Nee. She had no "head covering". . . not to mention Madame Guyon, Jessie Penn-Lewis, Peace Wang, Dora Yu, Ruth Lee, Mary MacDonald, and so forth - "close co-workers" and "fellow builders" all. This ministry of the Kingdom of Self teaches out of both sides of its mouth, and we're supposed to ignore these glaring discrepancies? "Just be simple" was the song we used to sing - yeah, it takes a lot of training to get that simple. A lot of training in yielding to continued pressure. Training in thought-suppression. Training in brainlessness.

Galatians 2:5 "to them we did not yield in submission even for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you"
"Freedom is free. It's slavery that's so horribly expensive" - Colonel Templeton, ret., of the 12th Scottish Highlanders, the 'Black Fusiliers'
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